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I run 10# (outside) & 12# (inside/deeper) balls and somethimes 10# fish weights. Tried to run pancakes a few times two years ago and had 3 tangles :evil: :evil: while running dodgers. Now that was a treat. :? It took me 1/2 hour to untangle that mess each time.. and that was using scissors to speed up the process :x . Took them off and they sit in the garage ever since.

Wasn't till a little later that I figured out what was going on. I had the releases hooked on the back of the pancakes and with the rods/lines tightened down for normal rigger fishing it would steer the weights to the opposite side the rod was positioned on the rigger. The deeper the weight the more swing to the other side it would go. Eventually the weights would cross and the fun began :roll: .

Needless to say I don't attach any releases to the weights anymore (especially the fish weights) and haven't had a problem since. Also by attaching off the cable instead of the weight you can turn much sharper without tangling lines. The pancakes may work better by attaching to the cable but I'll probably never get over the tangle mess I had using them so they can sit in the garage.

:idea: :idea: ....tequila seems to keep that little worm in pretty good shape for years. Should work on fish slime... :roll:

Only problem is you'll have to drink the tequila to get to the slime. Maybe you should use small bottles so you'll be able to fish most the day.

...been reading your posts on this subject and haven't responded because I don't use cow bells or fish lake Ontario but couldn't help myself after you seem hell bent on catching Lake Trout.

If your really into lakers then the finger lakes is were it's at. Lots of fish and some nice average size - 4lb to 10lb with several every year over the 10lb class. :shock:

These lakers fall for most any lure and presentation. Your job would be to use them to your advantage when the time is right. Lake trolls are a proven techinque on these lakes and there shouldn't be any reason for you not to catch them on it. Spoons, plugs, flies, streamers will all take their share of lakers. Pick a finger (watch out for the middle finger, it could be habit forming) and fish it a few times, more lakers will be in your freezer than you can eat.

Thanks Musky for the link. That does help clarify some of the issues.

Found these comments to be helpfull.....

"There don't seem to be chronic problems in the fleet from moisture being adsorbed by ethanol because of vented boat fuel tanks. Problems have all been traced to contamination issues caused by poor housekeeping that allows mixing of ethanol with MTBE or water."

"Ethanol acts like a cleaning agent and will loosen years of varnish buildup in an engine or fuel tank. Without good fuel filters, these dissolved fuel system wastes can cause problems for a boater."

.....so from that last paragraph it would seem the older cars/trucks are just as susceptible to the same problems. I guess we don't need to panic though. Knowing how to deal with it should become common knowledge once Ethanol makes a bigger headway into our fuels.

Maybe some of the old closed down farms in New York can go into the corn growing business. I wonder how many guys will be selling their boats and buying tractors & corn harvesters :roll: .

This subject was kicked around on other boards last fall. Between those discussions and my dealer I guess the best thing to do for now is be sure to have a full fuel tank before storage, add stabilizer and hope there is a minimum amount of water built up. My dealer says that an empty tank is even worse because of room for more condensation to collect during tempature changes. From what I understand, dry gas and the like will not work for this condition and a fuel/water seperator can hold just so much.

I only have a 48 gallon tank so it isn't any big deal to top it off for the winter but some of you guys more than double that. I'm planning on getting a syphon hose that will get down to the bottom of the tank, (easier said than done) and pull out that gasoline this spring and mix it in my truck a little at a time. Hopefully if there is any water in there it will come out during the syphoning stage and I'll see it in the collection can. It will be interesting to see just how much water does collect if any. I'll try and remember to let you know. :roll: That's my plan for now until something better comes along. :?

...to be continued....

How come there is not an over 50 setups on the poll question??? Closing in quick on 100

...... there also seems to be a little discrimination on this poll :shock:

we'll have to start another area that is made for old guys (people) with too much equipment

Can't wait to see who starts the poll on "How many boats do you have??"

I'm not as sick as you guys. I only have 15 trolling and 3 spinning setups. Also a couple spare rods & reels just in case something breaks. Got out of ice fishing years ago and my son took all that stuff along with a couple spinning outfits.

Once you get over 50 then you'll start to lighten up the load a little .

If we had a picture of the year contest that would definitely would be a contender for 1st place. I love it!!

frisco if ya need some ballast on your boat sometime give me a call.

Gee Ray, for a minute there I thought `frisco would toss me overboard for a new fishing partner . Then I remembered that I'm the only guy that has ever been able to put up with him for more than one fishing trip. If you really have to go fishing with him then go ahead. Your not to old for a new life experience :shock: .

Actually he is a pretty nice guy.

Ray, just between you and me..,I had to say that so `frisco would take me fishing again . I'm trying not to have to tell everyone why I was a no show for Saturdays fishing trip because it would ruin `frisco's image and that's something that Chaos probably wouldn't be able to get over.

Many a year, on March 15th, we caught a mess of Browns congregating near the sewage outfall ... :shock: ..

.........just what kind of browns were they...... do you touch them with your bare hands :? ......and what technique do you use to filet them??

I don't think you'll have much boat traffic around there from this board .

sorry, I couldn't help myself. Must be the wine is starting to kick in

It looks like Stinger in that other boat.

touche

Being partial to hardtops I think it is worth looking into. This style seems to utilize it's full 8'4" beam more efficiently than the other Trophy boats that I've seem. If your the type that likes to sleep on the boat then the extra large cabin is a plus, other wise the aft deck could use a little more room but in any case it sure looks like a nice unit. When you taking delivery ?

Here is another boat to check out if your into a little more of a utility/fishing boat. It's in the same size class and also has some great potential as a trolling machine.

Can't wait for you to post a picture of your new Trophy.

It's pretty quiet on the fingers. Need a fishing report fix......how about it `stix, `frisco? You guys got the ba!!s to go downriggin'? The ground hog says an early spring.....why wait!

I can't wait until the salmon/trout catalog comes out.

Sorry Rich, the Salmon/Trout catalog came out a couple weeks ago :shock: . Maybe yours is in the mail....next to the check .

The smaller catalogs make better bathroom material. That hard cover book hurts my leggs if I spend to much time in there. Sometimes it's hard to decide which catalog to bring in....Cabela's or Bass Pro...Midway or Bennett Marine...Trailer Boat or Boat US...on and on., but when it comes to shopping I like to use the keyboard as much as I like flippin' pages.

For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

...that is a simple as it can be put. Thanks for saying what the rest (most)of the Vets have been trying to say especially in the last 3 years.

Great post Toonfisher.....you get an "adda-a-boy" from one grateful vet. You will be blessed with heavy nets this year .

`67 to`71 USAF

attached to....

...during the 1968 TET offensive :shock:

I'm right behind Shellback sailing off into the sunset.........but I still have a pair of 13# balls that work pretty good :shock: .

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Here is a link to the State Department web site. This should answer most of your questions as they apply right now.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html

..I don't have time to listen to music. Spend full time monitoring to the VHF for hot fishing reports, lures, locations. Then I go full bore to the new location right along side your boat with the hot color and try to catch a fish. Can't hear the radio while under full power and then to busy listening to the VHF again in case someone has another hot tip :? .

A couple years ago a fishing buddy suggested that I try Black's after I was having trouble with my pincher style releases letting loose with dodger/fly rigs at deeper depths. Couldn't find any Black's at the local Gander Mtn but they did have DuBro releases and I didn't want to wait to mail order Blacks so I bought them. They seem to work pretty good for 2 years now. Not ever using Black's I was wondering if there is much difference between the two.

Any of you guys have an opinion on Black's vs DuBro ? One any better than the other?

I would NOT recommend trying this lake at least for two weeks. I will keep you posted.

..I'd have to agree with f-l-f. This is a picture of Cayuga south end at 9AM this morning and yesterday there wasn't any ice at all out in the lake. Heavy winds from NW had white caps all the in to the beach/shore.

as you can see ice started to form last night but how thick can the ice be?

well, we didn't fish yesterday after all. `frisco got scared after reading Hermit's report and being the gentlemen that he is, suggested that I stay home and wash the kitchen floor because his boat wasn't coming out of the garage . I don't know what the big deal was. The Alaskan crab fisherman go out in heavier seas than that and don't even think twice about it :shock: .

Thanks Hermie,...you are truly a brother of the Lodge to take your time to chase down that information. It will make it a little easier to plan a trip as soon as the weather permits.

With that said, my bucket, floor rag and no rinse floor cleaner is ready for some action on the kitchen floor tomorrow in lew of fishing . There is nothing like a good backup plan :? .

Thanks Hermie for checking things out for us. That would be great. Even though `frisco will wimp out this weekend we could use that info for next week. First hurdle other than weather is the bubbler. If it's not running or someone cuts the hose with their prop (real bright maneuver) then the game can't start. The water level has been adequate in recent years to float any boat that can go under the bridge. That is something that could change however :x .

After `frisco weenies out we'll be hearing the crying from the guy up north (Chaos) about how he was going to go with us this weekend even though we haven't heard from him yet. Ya right.......

I think I drank to much coffee this morning. I'll try and hold back a little ...