I find it funny when i talk to people around the area i hunt inP.A. and there complaining of not seeing anything.These are the same guys that had 3 doe permits in there pocket and filled every one when the great Dr Alt was doing his herd reduction.I agree that some areas had to be thinned out to a certain extent,not totally decimated.Your also going to see the herd thinned out even more in NY now that you can use rifles in certain counties.You might not notice the impact at first but 5 to 10 years down the road youll see a noticeable difference.