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Scott, There is enuff "material at this place, you don't need alcohol, But I believe they have an alcohol permit for their dockside gas shack to sell wine coolers, DIRRECTLY next to the RUNNIN REBEL ....How Ironic, the ONLY non-drinking boat on the lake. Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

I am glad to see the humor is spreading down there now. Me and Katie will rule there with sarcastic humor ALL DAY LONG.................. Jeraldo RUNNIN REBEL

Thank you Susie, That is a very fair deal you are offering and much appreciated. BUT, Please DO NOT rent out dock# D8 while I am up in Wilson NY fishing a tournament this weekend............ Jerry RUNNIN REBEL ----Permanent owner of dock# D8

Yup............TEMPORARILY Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

. It's getting tuff to describe the situation out there now....... Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Scott, your temporary dock is already for you at Bald Eagle Marina.... Next to Lake runner charters/ Capt. Paul Nau. Tell Capt. Gary Begy/Freedom charters there is a temporary dock for him too. Jerry RUNNIN REBHEL

Town of Hamlin may be closing and putting "Jersey type" concrete/non-movable barriers at Sandy Creek public launch as early as today. Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

AGREED !!!!!!!!!! Latest news/talk I forgot to mention while in Olcott sunday was the Dam at 18 mile creek/Olcott was getting concerns about overflows or worse........ Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

The 2014 plan did not become effective on LO until 1/1/2017, last summer they were still working with 58 d. And the lake was extremely low last fall, USACE was unable to complete their work in Braddocks then due to low water making it impossible to get their dredge in. I agree about funding for compensation, many years ago Don Zelazny, the Great Lakes Coordinator for NYSDEC, spoke to the need for mitigation for damages in any plan put forward, but somehow that escaped the attention of the Feds. But even Frank Sciremammano, who heads the Control Board and has been a vocal critic of Plan 2014 has indicated that which plan makes no difference in this discussion, this is caused by the extraordinary rains of early April. So how does the 2014 help out the current situation we are in for the longtime future outlook? I will repeat again Not blaming the weather on plan 2014 Again Do you really believe the technical start date of 1/1/2017 is when they officially started the planning or is now surprised by the high lake levels. The Mother nature they studied for16 years just surprised them with this lake level now instead of later this year during "The extended boating seasons of the future" As far as Braddocks go , me-you & Vince can discuss that at next meeting. The time to put stone in is when the water is low, NOT now at record highs. I will send pics of the piles of stone there now. Mitigation damages were discussed and numbers unofficially agreed upon, the sticking point was no money was put aside and the future lost revenue to the town & county & NY State tax base income ---because of lost businesses/shoreline tax valuations lower and mainly clean up/repair to government entities like State beaches & campgrounds plus water treatment plants ETC... was never calculated in and as for the calculation for government loses, there is no formula high enuff for that cost. Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

UPDATE: Just announced Meeting at our town hall this week to "Discuss with the town tax assessor about having waterfront properties and flooded property tax assessments reduced" So everyone else in our town may have to pick up the current tax base reduction. That leaves all the farmers and homeowners to pay, Which one of them pays the higher TAX RATE would you guess ? Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

"Lake Ontario St. Lawrence River Plan 2014" "Protecting against extreme water levels, restoring wetlands and preparing for climate change" "The International Joint Commission, after 14 years of scientific study and public engagement, advances Plan 2014 as the preferred option for regulating Lake Ontario-St. Lawrence River water levels and flows." "Plan 2014 is designed to provide for more natural variations of water levels of Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence River that are needed to restore ecosystem health. It will continue to moderate extreme high and low levels, better maintain system-wide levels for navigation, frequently extend the recreational boating season and slightly increase hydropower production. More year-to-year variation in water levels improves coastal health." The plan also allows "triggers" that would allow the International Joint Commission to take emergency actions in the event of high or low water conditions". WHERE IS THE EMERGENCY ACTION YET ? WE JUST TIED AND BROKEN THE ALL TIME RECORD LAKE LEVEL ........ "Plan 2014 supporters say the current plan has resulted in stability in lake levels BINGO-YATZEE-HOME RUN STATEMENT THERE.., but has resulted in an "unhealthy lake," adversely affecting the lake's 63,000 acres of surrounding wetlands. They note the absence of variable highs and lows have killed off certain native plants in the wetlands, causing congested "confields" of cattails with little or no open water. They say that numbers of ducks, terns and muskrats have decreased and that many spawning areas for northern pike have disappeared. The plan has been endorsed by environmentalist and outdoors sportsmen's groups alike, including the Nature Conservancy, New York Audubon, the New York State Conservation Council and Ducks Unlimited. Jim Howe, executive director of the Central and Western New York Chapters of the Nature Conservancy, described Plan 2014 as "a once-in-a-generation opportunity to restore the health of a great lake." The plan represents the largest wetlands restoration effort in the United States outside of the Florida Everglades. Critics of Plan 2014 - including numerous municipalities along the lake, fearful property owners and some businesses along the lake's south shore from Oswego to Niagara - favored keeping the current plan in place. They scoffed at the idea of putting "muskrats and cattails above property values." They said the plan will result in unacceptable highs and lows that cause erosion from high waters to dried up dock slips and shorelines. In addition, they say the estimated $2.3 million in annual negative impacts projected by the plan was grossly under-estimated - adding the plan contains no promises or built-in provisions for more federal or state aid to deal with problems it might cause. IJC officials confirmed that today, saying money for such problems would have to come from state or federal governments. Jack Steincamp, of Sodus, founder of LORA (Lake Ontario Riparian Alliance)," a group that pushed for keeping the status quo, said many have "no clue what an extra foot or lack of a foot means to the people living along the lake's shore or doing business in its marinas and harbors Any thing with IJC (International joint Commission) on it is from same people who studied this for actually 16 years(not 14 years) at a cost of OVER $20 MILLION DOLLARS just too study........Plus no funding was set aside as per signed treaty. Every south shore Riparian meeting I attended was filled with Environmentalist wording---"Climate change" -more natural water release" -Flooding and low water cycles helps the bays and ponds, Then Government officials back that up with "slight increase in $$$$ generating hydropower.--Extending boating season===== That is how this 2014 plan helped get us to this point, by not releasing water last may/June and forward.. Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

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Right on Scott. You cannot blame all this weather on the 2014 plan, BUT the new response in this plan is a more Natural release of water resulting in HIGHER-high waters and LOWER -low waters. And No range to conform to anymore AND no action must be take anymore, PLUS No compensation was every set aside(was part of the 2014 deal). The mess was happening last year to get to this point now. Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

Lake Ontario just TIED the all time record HIGH LEVEL at 248.46 Feet from the 1973 flood era......Congratulations to every marina & business & property I visited yesterday from Rochester to Niagara River.... What a heart breaking mess Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

Thank you very much for that offer ...much appreciated . We had three loads of sand delivered and 600 bags... ended up bagging 400 + Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Today and this Sunday will be tuff with the lake level approaching that 248 level, if not there already today. I received 2 dump loads sand piles and 400 sand bags THEN picked up an additional ATV trailer full from National Guard & sand bag machine/Hamlin -which was relocated to the Town of Irondequoite today/friday Sand bag fill and Stack party at my house this Sat 1 PM.... No Experience necessary... Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

Thank You Thank You Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

Sarah, I had some out of state fisherman sign up for the spring LOC derby online. They paid online and were given a confirmation #, but were never asked to fill out their names or other info ? How does this work ? Thanks in advance Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

Yup Rick............We are working on that also. Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

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Town of Greece has been pumping partially treated sewage into long pond ( Monday& Tuesday) "It blew those off because the pressure was so great, and sewage was pouring out into the street. We were pumping the street with a half-dozen pumps for three or four days. We weren't keeping up. It got to a dangerous level last night." The sewer was overwhelming the town pump station, and the fear was sewage would back up into basements, creating a contamination disaster. So town officials began relieving the pressure by pumping the excess sewage through a chlorinator to kill pathogens and then into nearby Long Pond." Monroe county has released 3.4 MILLION gallons of storm water & UNTREATED SEWAGE into the Genesee River also on Monday "Monroe County released 3.4 million gallons of stormwater and untreated sewage into the Genesee River about 6:30 p.m. Monday after the rainfall filled available storage" And again the outflows at the dam was reduced yet again. Under the new 2014 plan nothing has to be done to reduce lake levels anymore " a slower natural release of lake water is the preferred method now under 2014 plan", the old 1953 D plan had a binding Must response. The National guard is in Hamlin now filling sand bags with a sand bag machine till this Friday. Wonder how much all the shoreline town taxes will go up with such an upcoming of lake shore property devaluation happening. Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

Thanks for the post Sarah, Please keep constant updates on here. I am signing up at a new weigh station this year---Bald Eagle Marina Between Sandy Creek and Oak Orchard. I saw your DOCKSIDE weigh station set up there-Very nice. Gonna be very nice for the Sandy creek guy's to weigh in this year. Jerry RUNNIN REBEL

. Vince, this is 100% personal involvement and learning experience.. A little less government and business interest for me lately and absolutely zero expense reports.......... my wife had more questions than I did actually. And my daughter kept thinking. "deadliest catch vessel ". Vince your experience and exchange of information you provided on your "Trawl Trip" out of Olcott harbor last week was more important than you know. Communication and Questions is Key. Jerry RUNNIN REBEL Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app