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reelxite

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About reelxite

  • Birthday 07/23/1956

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    Reel Excitement

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  1. So as an added thing to keep the event on the up and up we have engaged the services of a professional lie detector administrator and will be randomly testing all of the money winners
  2. Ams are defined as not having anyone on board that has a license either federal or state that can charge for the service guiding to catch fish
  3. The are many exciting new developments happening on the Lake from the tournament perspective and the Orleans County Open is one of those with some new twists. First we are implementing an AM division and eliminating the need for Observers so the following format will be followed. Pro Division: 10 total Fish Box; 5 Salmon 5 Trout only 3 can be Lake Trout Am Division: 6 total Fish Box; 3 Salmon 3 Trout There will also be some Scoring changes: All fish will be 10 points per fish and 1 point per pound except Steelhead they will be 20 points per fish: This change was implemented after feedback from participants as to the concern of targeting Lake trout in the event, as it is counter productive the USGS goal of restoration efforts of Lake trout In Lake Ontario. Since the cost of an observer is typically $100/day the teams will be saving $200 off the cost of fishing the event. The new price to fish the event will be: $500 per Pro boat; Plus what ever side pools you want to participate in (Ex: Calcutta, brackets,) you need to fish the pro division in order to participate in the additional pools. $300 per Am boat Both events are 100% payback Looking forward to seeing you all at the event: The OCO Committee
  4. The are many exciting new developments happening on the Lake from the tournament perspective and the Orleans County Open is one of those with some new twists. First we are implementing an AM division and eliminating the need for Observers so the following format will be followed. Pro Division: 10 total Fish Box; 5 Salmon 5 Trout only 3 can be Lake Trout Am Division: 6 total Fish Box; 3 Salmon 3 Trout There will also be some Scoring changes: All fish will be 10 points per fish and 1 point per pound except Steelhead they will be 20 points per fish: This change was implemented after feedback from participants as to the concern of targeting Lake trout in the event, as it is counter productive the USGS goal of restoration efforts of Lake trout In Lake Ontario. Since the cost of an observer is typically $100/day the teams will be saving $200 off the cost of fishing the event. The new price to fish the event will be: $500 per Pro boat; Plus what ever side pools you want to participate in (Ex: Calcutta, brackets,) you need to fish the pro division in order to participate in the additional pools. $300 per Am boat Both events are 100% payback Looking forward to seeing you all at the event: The OCO Committee .
  5. On this Dave we agree and you and I have always agreed on this fact, when salmon fishing is good all season from April to September it takes pressure off of every other species. But as long as the west end late summer/fall fishery continues the recent trends we have seen over the past few years Steelhead will always come into play in the open lake fishery.
  6. If anyone knows Sandy and what is happening there its Rob(Legacy) and I would definitely believe him if he says its lights out fishing there.
  7. Is there a problem with sharing information about good fishing in the tribs, we do it ll the time on the lake, we like to have as many people as possible share in this great fishery.
  8. The pens are owned by the Oak Pen Rearing Group and all decisions as far as how they are used are made by consensus of the group, not me alone.
  9. So my one comment for today, I talked to a fisherman today who fishes both lake and tribs. I also talked to a friend at the Oak. The Oak is very slow could be because the canal is now empty. But the Genny and Sandy are on fire with steelhead, for the past 3 weeks. There have been many fisherman having double digit days catching fish and the guys that really know what they are doing are occasionally doing better than that. Remember this is second hand, I do not fish the tribs, this time of the the year my focus is on whitetail hunting. So the question is how good does it have to be in the tribs? If the fishing is this good now why do we need the new reg? Is it because the DEC is worried that with all the salmon cuts the last few years, we will have to focus more on steelhead in the future to catch fish on the Lake? I know they keep tabs on this site and hope they are reading and seeing how big of a divide they are further driving between the trib stakeholders and the lake stakeholders, and I consider many of the DEC guys friends.
  10. Again I will restate it pen rearing steelhead has never been focused on the the lake fishery and has little effect on steelhead availability on the lake it has always been focused as a benefit for the tribs.
  11. Dave what you don't know is that the pen was not pulled for the new steelhead reg. It had nothing to with that it had to do with a cut in stocking in salmon in the pens at the Oak, so if that is what Rob told you it is absolutely wrong. You can verify this with Legard because we were very upset with the cuts to the pen project and him and I had a very long discussion about the whole subject. But again you dont know the facts I did and was over ruled by the rest of the committee. I throw no one under the bus! They have every right to do that. One last thing when TU did not give us financial support for the pen projects it was because they wanted us to support a cut in the steelhead harvest on the lake, whats that called "quid pro quo"
  12. Dave, again you are wrong the pens not being use for steelhead in Sandy had nothing to do with the Reg. it was not even proposed at the time, get your facts correct, to bad you are really out of touch. Also it is not my decision alone to make any more with the pen project at the Oak it is being transitioned to the younger men that support it and it is done as a group which I am part of, again you are out of touch. So the fish being released at the time they were released was not my decision, and I guess it was our fault that the fish stayed in the river for 3 days, again you are out of touch. And I will give you a little know fact, we went to TU when we started the Pen project in 1998 and they gave us nothing, It was totally financially supported by lake interests, something again you dont know. If you are going to make statements get your facts right.
  13. Dave, we have always asked for help and have always posted on this site and facebook on multiple pages, also making it general knowledge in the community buy posting notices at the local places of business when help was needed, (Ron B always knew what was going on) did not know we needed to send a special invitation to the trib anglers to get their attention, and if we did where would we sent it. Would like to think if they cared about the fishery they would attempt to find out when work needed to be done, the lake anglers do! Its not a secret when the work needs to be done the the lake anglers are always asking when the pens need to be put together when the fish are coming. The trib guys could have stepped up any time and taken over the steelhead portion of the project to show they cared but never did and never asked. they just let it go to the wayside and did not care to ask. It was not until the DEC made it a priority and came up with the funds to support it that something happen. And then it was lake a guy that helped facilitate the construction of the pens for free. As you can tell when it comes to the pen rearing you pushed the wrong button!
  14. Sorry to say Dave this was not the reason we stopped raising steelhead in the Oak, I was still the coordinator when this happen, it happen for only one reason absolutely "NO" help from the trib anglers!!!!! From the beginning we always knew that penning steelhead would have little effect on our open water steehead fishery. We raised them for only the benefit of the tribs. I still have the original justification documents I gave to Bill Abraham for the projects. I will say at times we did get help from the trib anglers but it was always minimal, maybe they would show up one time and feel they did their due diligence for the project. It was always lake anglers supporting the tribs from that perspective. In past conversations with Ron B. he even stated that he did not believe that the pen project helped the steelhead stream fishery, and if denied I call "BS" right now. Remember with the help of Bill Abraham we together started the pen program and I have always been involved with the decision process of the program and will till I retire or die.
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