bulletbob

I dunno,,, It sounds like an awful lot of work to fish something like that... Trolling meat rigs is bad enough, but hanging them at staggered depths under giant bobbers??...ugh.. I guess I just don't need the fish that bad.. I'll stick to jigging....bob

Don't get an I/O.. They are headaches when they get old, believe me.. people are always ditching I/O boats when the get $8,000-10,000 repair estimates to replace the engine and/or final drive.. The same size boat with an O/B could be repowered with a good used OB for $1,000 depending on engine size.. Your best value would be a good OB fiberglass boat around 16 feet.. They can be found dirt cheap especially in the fall.. Seriously, you can find some pretty nice older glass boats for $1,000 or even less in the fall... If you are looking for a really good boat for laker jigging/bait fishing on Keuka, PM me or email me.. I have a 15 foot glass boat w/ a 30 hp that I am looking to sell, CHEAP.. Its a very stable, wide open boat with a solid floor and transom.. Its a Boston Whaler style tri hull, and it will laugh ay anything Keuka can throw against it.. Its got more open space than lots of 17 footer I have seen..Its old but very solid, and I use it on Keuka all the time. If you like we can take a ride before you buy, and did I mention REALLY CHEAP??.. I just bought a old 14 foot aluminum boat and will be using that more and more as I have less time to fish than I used to.. In any case, I would look at older glass hulls if price is the issue as they run a lot cheaper. Glass is also much better when the wind is howling due south or due north straight up or down Keuka which it is much of the time.. Light aluminum hulls are great in calm water, but they blow along pretty fast in the wind

12-14 foot.. NOT looking for an expensive boat, just something to use in the river thats light... I have an old side console 15 foot skiff, looks similar to an old Boston Whaler, Built by CMF, a boat builder from S Carolina in the 70's,, Tri hull, lots of storage, solidly built, VERY wide, very stable, great for jigging or bait fishing the Finger Lakes or big rivers.. A nice solid old boat with a good running 30 HP johnson and a foot operated Minn Kota up front.. Its old and vintage looking, and could use some clean up, but its my go to boat, and has always been reliable, super stable and never ever gets a drop of water in the bilge unless its raining or big waves splash into the boat.. transom and floor are hard as a rock... One man launches/retrieves in seconds.. Solid trailer as well... Will trade straight up for a small aluminum of equal value, or will sell for $700... Color fishfinder comes off unless you want to negotiate a deal... Also looking to buy a small aluminum boat if I can't trade for one.. Bob 607-659-5334

Vertical jigging was and is the norm.. however, these fish are seeing a LOT more jigs hopping up and down for the past 10 years or so.. They no longer respond as they did when very few guys were using jigs. If you aren't getting hit and are marking fish, try racing and I do mean RACING your lure straight up from bottom.. You can't possibly move the lure fast enough to take it away from a laker.. past few years I have caught more lakers on fast retrieves than I have with conventional "yo yo" jigging techniques.. Some days it doesn't make a difference.. Often it does however... bob

Good advice from those that know!.. I catch fish on Keuka with all types of jigs, including plain old large white Mr Twisters on a 1 oz head[Get the jig heads from Hermit,they are priced right, and are of superior quality].. However, some days a 1 oz jigging spoon can't be beat.. I cut 1 of the barbs off the large treble... Much easier to unhook fish without killing them, and still much better hookup rate than a single... SHARPEN YOUR HOOKS!!!! always, even when brand new,, Also, on Keuka, I start fishing at very first light.. Earlier is better when laker jigging, especially on Keuka.. 7 am till about 10 am is prime time.. Some days they shut off later in the morning.. One more thing I have found and our friend Hermit has noticed the same thing.. The lakers don't always hit a standard jigging motion on slower days.. I think its because they are seeing it a lot the past several years.. I could be wrong.. I have been having better luck dropping the jig to the bottom, reeling it maybe 20-30 feet up at a decent clip, and then dropping it down and repeating, I intersperse this with standard jigging motion.. On Keuka, They will hit anywhere from right on the bottom in 150 feet, or will slam it a foot under the boat after following it all the way from bottom.. In Keuka there is NO dead zone.. Those fish can be anywhere at any depth , especially this time of year.. Keep hitting it, and you'll clean up before long, I promise... bob

This happened on Cayuga about 5 years ago as well. The entire lake was covered with bass, sunnies, rock bass by the millions, bullheads, suckers, Pike,Pickerel, Carp etc... Massive piles of fish washed up on the south point of Taughannock Park, stacked up so deep they brought a bucket loader in to clear the piles of rotting stinking fish.. I called the DEC, and they said it was "temperature related spawning stress".. bullcrap... Since that week years ago, I have yet to catch a good size rock bass in cayuga.. They had just about disappeared... Same thing with Smallmouth in the very south end of the lake.. i would catch dozens in a few hours, BIG ones, standing on the same damn rock.. Now I catch one or two a year... I posted about it on another forum, and was hammered for being an alarmist, being negative, there's nothing wrong with the lake etc.. I have been here for 22 years, and over the last 7 or so, have seen big die offs of Pike, Bass, Rock Bass, Suckers etc... There IS a problem, and I think the DEC is aware of it, but won't discuss it... bob

This time of year they will be deep.. Probaby over 150 feet, but you might find them shallower in some areas.. In a few months they come in shallower, and I have caught them in May in less than 40 feet.. Catching the lakers is easy.. Just use a heavy jigging spoon of at least an ounce, or a plastic bait of some sort on a 1 oz or better jig head...Flukes, minnow bodies, Gulp, tubes, even curly tails will all catch.. I like white, white and black, white and chartreuse, chartreuse, white and silver,pearl, etc.. Light colors work best for me.. You can drift or use an electric motor to hold the boat in "fishy areas".. Drop the lure to the bottom, jig it, reel in 20 feet up and drop again... It takes time to figure out the action they want on any given day.. In my opinion, the lakers are wising up, and I catch less just bouncing bottom than I did years ago.. These days, most of the fish I catch are on faster retrieves, racing the lure up from the bottom maybe 20-30 feet, and then dropping it down and repeating.... Really, catching the fish isn't hard... I used to catch a ton of them on painted wheel weights off a car, with hooks attached.. The biggest challenge is finding the fish.. You NEED a good fish finder that will read schools of bait and individual fish.. If you have cheap $69 unit on the boat, throw it away, and get something decent.. The best basic bottom line advice I can give you is this... Find schools of bait with your fish finder, and look for fish marks around them.. lets say you spot bait 70 feet down in 100 feet of water,, If you see a few marks under that bait ball, its a good chance they are lakers,, fish around those readings and hang on.. btw, lakers can be all over the bottom, and you won't read even one on the finder... They are often RIGHT on the bottom, and your ff can't even pick them up.. Watch for bait, suspended fish, and other boats jigging.. Keep a wide berth, but its a good bet if you see other guys jigging, you are in the zone... If you would like to go some time, I would be happy to show you the ropes... .. Better yet, call this guy... http://www.fingerlakesanglingzone.com/ His name is John Gaulke He will put you on lakers better than anyone else, show you the tackle and techniques you need to be successful in all the Finger Lakes. bob

Sorry haven't been aroud much.. I talked to my friend, they have been certified, and will be up and running end of march as previously stated... I think they will be selling red worms and night crawlers as well.. I will get a phone # ASAP, .....bob

Some friends are having the NYS DEC come up to thier farm this monday 3/4/13 to have 150 baitfish removed from their ponds for certification... They are planning on selling live bait starting early this sping... They will be accessible at any time with a phone call,.. In other words, lets say you want to start fishing at 4 am.. You can call them the night before and your bait will be ready, they will be there.. From what I hear they will be there at about 5 am most days in season, and will be on call any time during the year if you need bait.. This is NOT a "tackle shop".. Live minnows only ...Its a running farm with loaded bait ponds they want to utilize... I will post more specifics as I get them, but I told them there will be some interest, because they plan on selling bait at any time with just a "heads up" call, and will be netting bait before anyone else is even out of bed.. I will give more details when I have them. If all goes well with the state certification,, I plan on having them contact LOU to advertise... They are within 5 minutes of Taughannock Park...bob

A plain 3/8 oz leadhead with a plastic tail in Chartreuse, silver/white, silver/ black, or even plain white or shad color. With that lure I have caught, Salmon, Browns, Lakers, Pike, Tiger Muskies, Pickerel, Walleyes, Carp, Channel Cats, Bullheads, Suckers, Large and Smallmouth Bass, Crappies, Perch, Sunfish, Goldfish,Fallfish and many varied saltwater species... You can fish it on the bottom in 100 feet on a calm day, or though the weeds in 2 feet if you have good reflexes..... Its not really a trolling rig, or trolling set up, but they work there as well.... bob

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My blood pressure is fine.. I really can't say why we could not hook up, but others have had no problem whatsoever....bob

Thanks for looking guys.. These lures are being held for a member. bob

Are these walleyes being caught on treble hooked plugs? I wonder if trolling with trebles in pretty deep water is the problem?. I catch a lot of Walleyes every year, but mine are caught in a river in water 15 feet deep and under on single hook jigs mostly.. Never can I remember a floater in all the years I have been Walleye fishing... Trebles kill IMHO.. I have been cutting 1 hook off many of my my trebles for several years, and the fish are so much easier to unhook, and initial hookup is every bit as good... It has certainly upped survival on my released fish.

I have seen these reels.. They are pristine.. These are absolute top of the line USA Penn.. In my opinion the finest spinning reels ever made.. The price is super as well. These go $85 each on ebay... Ralph is a good guy to deal with, we just made a nice trade of gear, and I got 2 of the penn reels he had .. Immaculate condition... bob

Be nasty if you'd like, but I explained in the post I had INDEED sent out emails through this site, and none were received for whatever reason.. In any case, I have made a bunch of deals here in the past week or two including selling a boat, trading lures for rods and reels with several very nice guys, selling a trolling plate, and buying a boat seat. If you tried to get in touch and couldn't I'm sorry, but 6 other guys had no major problems. Perhaps the source of the inefficiency would reveal itself if you look in the mirror... If you have nothing useful to say, please be kind enough to leave the for sale posts alone.. Someone can use this gear, if you can't...

28 spoons, 25 plugs.. Some of the spoons have brands, some don't- one just says made in Canada.. The plugs are mostly Rebel, most are jointed.. There are also 5 Rapalas, a couple of Rattle Traps, and a flatfish or knock off therof.. The Plugs are mostly new, never used, or used once, and the spoons are lightly used for the most part, although some show a few tooth marks etc... $60 firm for all.. Still looking for a stiff Graphite spinning rod [no reel] that can handle a say a large 20+ pound Bluefish, Striper or Salmon.. If you have a decent one to trade, you can take all the lures for $30.. PLEASE look at the colors and styles and make sure you can use this stuff before calling. Would also consider a straight swap for a decent depth finder w/ transducer thats working.. call Bob at 607-659-5334 Or email me at [email protected] Please do not respond here, its not as efficient trying to communicate via PM

I was out there at the bluffs as well... Didn't see that many boats today.. Decent fishing, certainly not spectacular. A friend and I brought 5 to the boat, and dropped that many on the way up.. Bite was good early, but dropped fast after about 9 am... We had them on white twister tails , pearl/black shad paddle tails, and one on a jigging spoon... My friend was a first timer to jigging lakers, and was pretty happy landing the first fish of the day on his first drop of the morning as soon as we stopped the boat. He landed two, dropped one, .. All in all a good day. We were on the way home by 10:45. No fish were caught with a "jigging" motion.. All were caught on a drop and reel retrieve today, the faster the better... One crazy laker [ I THINK it was a laker] came flying up through 120 FOW and took a massive swipe/swirl at the lure an inch from the boat as I was lifting the lure out of the water.. He must have taken lessons from the resident pickeral/Pike, etc... One fish was a respectable 26 inch female, very dark, almost black. One of the darkest lakers I have ever caught.. She was loaded with quickly ripening eggs, as was another good size fish we kept... I always feel creepy about keeping gravid fish, but I do realize that Keuka is absolutely loaded with lakers.. We marked a LOT more fish than bait.. as a matter of fact, we saw NO bait today.... bob

I emailed you through the site, along with 2 others.. Sorry about that, none of you got the emails evidently, and there's nothing I can do about that.. Several people are pissed at me, and I tried to contact them... . Phone calls are best, I will no longer try and use the email function on this site.... BOB.. 607-659-5334

Caleb.. I sent you an email.. bob

Those are great reels, but I am more interested in a couple basic salt water setups that can be used in deep water with heavy sinkers.. No need for high end gear really... bob

It will sell....and she did tell me you called, she just wasn't sure what you were talking about, she thought you meant a motor.. it was too late to call back, thats why I sent the email asking you to call tues.. We are talking ONE day here...

btw, Mike.. here is a copy of the email i sent you last night about this very subject... Hello mcny, The following is an e-mail sent to you by bulletbob via your account on "Lake Ontario United". If this message is spam, contains abusive or other comments you find offensive please contact the webmaster of the board at the following address: [email protected] Include this full e-mail (particularly the headers). Please note that the reply address to this e-mail has been set to that of bulletbob. Message sent to you follows ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mike.. Did you try and call??.. I haven't been around much lately, and when I have been, i have been getting home late.. My wife said someone called about "something about a motor"... In any case. try again tues after 6 or weds after 5 and I'll be here.. bob 659-5334