King Davy

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  1. Banana's aren't just a boat thing. I'd never have bananas on my boat ever....and when I had a crew going out, I'd ask if they had any on them. If so, they had to stay onshore. BUT the Banana thing is simply bad for fishing. One time headed up to the Salmon river. I was going to be gone for several days on a combo Trout Salmon and Albie fishing trip to LI sound. We had two or three bananas laying around...figured they'd go to waste...I take them for a snack while fishing the river. Got there at 0-Dark-30. Rigged up and hit the water.. Left the bananas in the truck. For six solid hours I had Trout and Salmon all around me, and couldn't get a single fish to take. I trudged back to the truck in the pouring rain beaten. Opened the door and saw the bananas. Could it be? I ate them all right there. Next morning before leaving for the Sound, I hit the Upper Fly area. Figured it would be crowded. It was Oct on the Salmon River after all. NOT a soul there. Hmmm. Went up to a favorite swinging spot. Stepping down and casting, hooked a 10 pound brown trout. Next time through the run a 15 pound Steelhead dime bright that ran me down river for a 100 yards. Decided to try another spot and landed two more chrome fish. IT HAD TO BE THE BANANAS!!!! I was with a guide friend on the Delaware, floating the main stem. All day long no shots at fish looking up. Couldn't believe it. We parked on an island and he offered me a banana...!!! HUH? We've had this evil fruit onboard all day???? I tossed it in the weeds and crushed it. Next run, Fish raising everywhere....20 + inch Wild Browns and rainbows.....NUFF SAID
  2. YAY!!!! This will save on my Dentist have loose fillings replaced.
  3. Vince....not sure what the "I found a home in the fly fishing community" has to do with a Focus discussion on the health of the trout fishing in the LO tribs. The only mention of a fishing technique in this meeting was that bait is more effective than artificial lures, or flies. I don't think anybody would challenge that. I learned to fly fish at age 14 on rivers in the state of GA. no less. And I did use fly fishing in my charter business when we caught steelhead on dry flies in 400-600 feet of water late spring early summers. But the attendees back trolled plugs, float fished, spin fished and fly fished. So this wasn't a fly fishing meeting. Late 2016 DEC commissioner received from what I've heard over a 1000 emails and hand written letters from disgruntled Trib anglers who had visited NYS to trib fish over the last couple years ...and decided to hold a trib focused discussion with DEC USGS/Sea Grant. These letters were from several states as far away as Colorado and Montana of anglers who annually come to our tribs. And I assume since the Commissioner asked Steve to put this focus discussion together may have been worried about lost revenue as well as news getting around that NYS wasn't a key destination for Steelhead and brown trout anymore. . And what they heard was in the last three years some business admitted to having revenue down as high as 25%. One river guide stated that where his customers used to book multiple days, recently they haven't and have canceled the following days trips due to poor fishing, Vince you and I are on the same page when it comes to the heartbreaking treatment that our fish get in a river by a band of folks who intend to use any means to harvest fish. This behavior ruins the experience for people trying to have a quality day fishing on one of our beautiful rivers. And you and I have both listened to the frustration of CO's who write 100's of tickets only to have most of them thrown out of court. And it is stealing. Heck this band of bad guys caught at 18 Mile were selling salmon on Facebook. So after three very poor years of fishing the trrib focused anglers became the squeaky wheel,
  4. Yeah I started this????
  5. Well Gill interesting enough we did ask if there had been any stomach studies of steelhead to where something that was in their diet previously (before 2013) that was now missing that may have contributed to faster breakdown of thiaminase that was no longer in their diets....and no those types of studies have not been done. Often it isn't one thing that topples something.
  6. Well Brian...I received a note from Lapan on 1/18 asking me to help put this together for a trib conversation. I just went through every email I received from 1/18 to 2/11...and I don't have any from a person asking to attend that as a Charter boat Capt. and not a trib angler....or even a trib angler that got turned away. So I'd be happy to talk to those folks that got turned away...and you have my contact feel free to pass them along. This wasn't a conversation about the entire was focused on the tribs as requested by DEC. Maybe you should call Steve and complain to him as well. Don't know what else to tell ya sport.
  7. Well I saved all my who contacted me? Message me with their names and I have them all.
  8. We all should be paying attention to the proposed Federal budget cuts. From $300M to $10M could lose the lamprey program...and then it won't matter what the States put in the lake. The Atlantic Salmon and lake trout programs will go belly up for lamprey control, and Kings, browns and steelhead will be pure candy for lampreys..
  9. Yeah Gambler.....we are going to have a world class Atlantic Salmon fishery with 60K yearlings and 150K fry a year. Get real. While I've caught some dandy's on the LO tribs...I take that Game to Labrador.
  10. Laughing I don't know who Tall Tails is...And I'm sure he doesn't have my personal contact info. The meeting was to get input from people who fish the tribs on a regular basis as a rec angler, or who run a business from the trib fishery. I guess I'll say...if the DEC asks Lake Anglers to meet to discuss issues just on the lake...I promise not to be offended, or accuse anybody of any wrong doing when not invited. My feelings won't be hurt. .
  11. As a member of the International Stakeholder Committee Steve approached myself and Ron from Orleans Co. to reach out to known businesses, rec anglers and trib groups to invite. We did just that. Tom Burke was invited, Kevin Davis, and the head of the Oswego Co. River Guides association Steve Kowalski. As well as some pro guides from region 8 and 9. Tom stayed in touch on all the conversations with me personally, but at the last minute had a conflict, Kevin was away, and Steve was there. I know all three run boats on the lake. They were invited not because they are Charter Boat Capt's, but run river trips. I have never met Tom or Steve, I was going on information provided us on resources from that area. We put this together in a matter of days due to scheduling issues for DEC and some of the folks who traveled in the winter to Altmar from as many as three hours away. I represented Trout Unlimited and my NYS Guide wife agreed to handle the secretary duties. And capture everyone's input. Anything else you need to know know?
  12. Shady move.???...we got invited. We got invited because through Scott's study there was some alarming changes to results from the earlier studies. We didn't invite all the regional managers and Steve Hurst. And the results of the meeting were offered to all at the SOTL meetings. Hopefully you took the time to pick them up and read them. Everybody has to take this Clandestine, Agenda laden junk out of play. Many of us have been involved with working with DEC, MNR and USGS for decades to provide input on what we experience in the LO fishery, both in open water and in rivers and streams. Most of it is valuable insight. Are there those that have stronger personal feelings on all of this and are willing to express it.....I think we see that in this forum from the entire watershed. But where has any radical outliers forged huge management changes from DEC? Again stop making this personal...We (and we should be thankful) are being asked for our input on a regular basis from DEC USGS and MNR on all environments of this fishery. We are further down the road in a true partnership with these Science organizations than ever before,
  13. Well....the Steelhead situation has been affected in Canada. We have trib stakeholders on the International group. Many of the natal streams on the North shore are way down with recruited fish. The Ganny that used to get close to 20K fish above the fish ladder has barely seen 4K fish the past three years. Bowmenville, Wilmont, and Duffins which normally has thousands of fish in the closed section had hardly any as of Early Jan, when the trib groups who have a massive organization and are actually involved in rearing fish, and helping MNR did a walk through to look for spawners. So honestly both wild and hatchery fish appear to be struggling They are working on a 1 fish creel limit like we have for the North shore. Andy Todd didn't share any information on tribs. We should ask for his data.
  14. Yes we've heard these thoughts. I've personally told them, as have many other Trib anglers have, this is not a realistic solution. We've managed both species for 40 years. What the majority of trib folks are seeking is not even more fish....just trying and keep the ones we have. There are several management options to do just that...that has no baring on stopping Pacific Salmon stocking. And neither DEC or MNR is considering any changes to the species line up. We are hoping to get the old Watershed wide Stakeholders meetings started up again. Something Steve LaPan is looking into. We all need to be at the same table. .
  15. I stated to DEC and MNR...make the use of brown trout eggs illegal to use, and hammer the offenders with huge fines and loss of tackle....and it will eventually stop. Problem is we need to also take this up with our legislators as fines are way to light..... I spend a lot of time in pull this crap're going to Jail.