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For Sale: Used aluminum drift boat with brand new oars on homemade trailer. $2k

Forester, I sent you a PM.

located in Central Square, NY 13036. Can bring it to Wilson, NY for opening weekend of the LOC.

For Sale: Used Fish hawk 840 speed and temp unit. It includes the head, probe and transducer. Asking $200 + shipping, can arrange pick up. I'm posting this for a friend, please PM for more information.

For Sale: 4 cannon mag 10 downriggers w/ 3 new low profile swivel bases. Asking $700. Boat was upgraded last season, downriggers are in working condition and were held on as spares. I am post this for a friend. For more detail PM me.

I have one that is brand new that I'm looking to sell. Drop me a pm and we could discuss details. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

If any team is looking for a crew member/teammate for any tournament whether temporary or full time, my schedule has opened. My monday to friday 9-5 job has allowed me to be a weekend warrior for over 10 years now. And in that time I have been apart of several money winning placing in many tournaments. Drop me a PM if your interested and if you have any questions. I am reliable, dedicated, and most of all a DIEHARD fisherman.

If anyone is looking for an observer for the WHI, I have an extra one. PM me.

I have a question about this payout, 70 teams @ $650 is only $45,500, right? How is the total purse of $53,750 possible, unless we know that the sponsor $$$ is the difference. NEW COMBINED PRO & AM DIVISIONS: This payout is based on 70 Teams, a $650 entry fee, all entry & sponsor $$$ split 30% to day 1, 30% to day 2 and 40% to the overalls, to the top 10 teams in both the “Trophy†& “Classic divisions. NOTE – All teams can qualify for 2 checks per day (1 in each division) & 2 checks overall (1 in each division) 6 total. Top 10 â€Trophy†Boxes Days 1&2-Top 10 “Classic†Boxes Days 1&2-Top 10 Overall Boxes Both Divisions 1st – $1800 1st – $1800 1st – $2000 2nd – $1250 2nd – $1250 2nd – $1500 3rd – $1000 3rd – $1000 3rd – $1300 4th – $750 4th – $750 4th – $1150 5th – $650 5th – $650 5th – $1025 6th – $600 6th – $600 6th – $950 7th – $550 7th – $550 7th – $850 8th-10th – $500 8th-10th – $500 8th – $750 Total # of checks paid 60, 10 per division day 1 & 2 & overall 9th – $650 Total $$$ to “Trophy Boxes†days 1&2+overall = $26,875.00 10th – $500 Total $$$ to “Classic Boxes†days 1&2+overall = $26,875.00 TOTAL EVENT PURSE $53,750.00

Gambler, after reading your post, I thought of the movie "happy gilmore"! If your not familiar with the movie let me tell you about what I mean. A none golfer with a baseball swing stroke that drives a ball farther than the Pro's. His putting game sucks in the beginning but later improves by each tournament he is in. The point I wanted to make is that at happy's first tournament he ended last. But he did get a small check, which made him compete more and better his game and eventually winning a jacket! You mentioned baseball, but in baseball there is one winner no matter what division. In golf you could ended up 9th and take home a prize. I understand how you feel, because 3 years ago I start on the open division, did ok. Following year went am. Took home some money. Then last doing am again and placing 2nd in the lake wide challenge. Only 3 full year of tournament fishing. There is 60 prizes in 1 event. I might not win first but sure will try. [ Post made via iPhone ]

I was on an Am team the last couple of years and I'll say that I am for this change! I'm for the competition and I see a possibility of placing. With that being said there are some questions and concerns I have though. I wasn't at the meeting so I apologize for any repetition, but first let me cast a vote for the entry fee being $650. At the amateur level we do have limited space for teammates, so dividing cost is feasible among a smaller teams. As for rods, personally the big boats have the advantage here. So the least amount would be fair, as I see it. Lake Ontario has never been nice to us, especially during tournaments, and a boat with a 13 foot beam can easily run a 10 rod spread in 4-5ft waves and bettering their chances, while the 8 even 9 ft beamers take pride in running 6 in the same conditions without a tangle. That would bring up the question, was is the rule of when would a tournament be called off due to weather? Seriously a disadvantage to us when you hear the words, gale force winds or small craft advisory and we are forced to fish. The Challenge Cups are confusing also. Are there cups for both short and long for West, East, and whole? If so how will it work if I play the strategic way and place in both short and long? Can I place high in short box and low in long box and win the long box cup when another team places lower in big box in the same events? In the past it would go to the most consistent team but now it sound more confusing. And lastly the weigh ins. Everyone hates how long the weigh-ins take. If I have to hear "50/50" for longer I'll go postal! They took a long time already and it's understood but now if I have a box of 12, how much longer will it take for me and the other teams to fish out the top 5/6 (which I vote for 6) so they can place in both? Maybe it should be considered 1 prize per day. But then on the other side of things, we would see teams taking their time to weigh-in so they would choose where they would sit better. Regardless, I plan to do all 4 and hope to see fellow amateurs do the same! Everyone has to admit, there were days out there that you took your single day score and compared them to the Pro's. And you saw your team with a better score then the Pros. You took pride because you did it with less rods and a smaller limit. But then the next day, you sucked and realize that is why they are Pro's and we're Am's. Now guys, we can take that one day and get paid and recognized! No one remembers, who was in second place at the king of the lake in Wilson after day one a couple years back, right? Well that team had to fish day two in horrible conditions for their boat size and dropped to 13th and didn't get paid. Man I wish there was a two day tournament that paid each day back then! I'm in!! [ Post made via iPhone ]

If anybody is looking for a team member or even an observer for the WHI, I am available. My old team, Team Fish Hawk, is taking a year or two off, a sabbatical for say, but I need to fish. Send me a pm and we'll exchange numbers. Mark [ Post made via iPhone ]

Shade, I apologize if I misspoke. I support No Communication. I was confused why the AM have to form their own no communication committee separate from the PRO's? Your right, we will decide whether to sign at the meeting. But I'll say this, I'm not going to sign it if your the only AM team on it. I try to use open communication as a tool. You said it yourself, as well as others, that the Am's talk to the Pro's and the Pro's talk to the Am's. Is that wrong in the open communication rule? If you choise to talk to 3 different guys, get 3 different places, with 3 different lures and then what? You still have to be lucky enough to catch them. I like 1 guy and sometimes he talks, but mostly he doesn't. Like most of the guys, either way I will compete. But if you want my support include the little guys, my money might be in smaller increments but it's still green.

Pete,in all do respect, the open communication is the main reason we are in the AM side. We are little guys that work Monday thur Friday and fish the weekends when we can. We would like to go against the big boys and have but found that we are at a disadvantage for the open communication rule. I would like a committee to be formed for the ProAm tournament not the Pro tournament. I think reason why you havent heard from AMs is because we try to practice no communication anyway, not because we have to but because we don't have anyone to talk too. I hope your doing this for the tournament sake. If you include the AMs in your rules and not forcing us to form our own committee that will give you another 25 -26 teams that will be easy supporters in your case in Niagara. If you leave it to us we might doing something if someone wants to step up. Just food for thought! [ Post made via Mobile Device ]

Does anyone know what happen to the website? [ Post made via Mobile Device ]

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I have over 60 flies (skirts) that I'm looking to sell. Some Atommik, G-fly, Howie, NK, Siggs, Big Weenie, and other one of a kind unknown types. There is two unopen 4-pack of Atommik's skirts as well as 2 opened but never used of Atommik packer and glow packer skirts. Those 4 packs by themselves go for $12.95 ea. For the whole thing I'm asking $50.00 ship anywhere in the US.

We had a slow morning on Saturday but it picked up in the afternoon after we moved 4 miles to a "go to" spot. Got some Moonshine Shiver minnows in the mail to try out and I LOVE THEM!!! They glow all they day long and no front hook to get hooked on the ice and loose your fish by the hole !!!

My Favorite commercial was when Rose Ann Bar got hit with the log!!!!

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Congrats to everyone including the commitee. Excellent job done by all!!!! Steph, remember that if a spot opens and you need another girl on your team my wife wants to "beat me at my own game".