I have seen very few as well. Jumped only a couple while setting tree stands and none upland hunting thus far. Also haven't seen any along the back roads. Seem to be plenty of woodcock but no grouse. As you said apples, berries, and grapes are everywhere. It seems as the numbers are down the last several years. Also seems the turkey hatch was down perhaps due to rainy weather we had earlier in the summer. We will be checking out Fort Drum this week and seeing if we find any.