john1947

23 lb laker, largest in my career

Im having it mounted ,first fsh for mount

It was a cracked fitting on the wash down pump thankfully,you couldnt see it as the pump was off when we checked the hatch, ,all we could think a bellows blew .I was so strange as i had just turned on the bilge shortly before we ran back.The laker was 23 ilbs 38 innches a pre spawn femal,it's in the shopCould be worse as if we hadnt shut off the pump earlier.Somehow the auto,matic bilge didnt turn on as it usually. does.

Went out yesterday  with a friend.Couldnt touch the few fish i saw inside so i went out to 120.Copper 450 was hot with two nice lakers carbon 14 mag..One is in the mid 20"s taking it to the taxidermist today

I also had a revolting development on the way back My motor stalled and then i found I was taking on water,why the motor stalled.I got the water down and restarted the motor.Took it to bear creek as i still dont know why it happened.The CG and firedept. were on there way but I told them I was safe and they went backTook the boat home for a cleaning .

This boat has never given me in trouble in  6 years and is always kept up

Its a 26 searay with a 260 merc ,good bellows solid boat.

Read online maybe exhaust clamps sometimes will losen and do this

Boat will not go back till I get the alarm and seperate high output bildge  installed and of course find the cause of the leak fixed

Thanks to the CG and pultneyville fire dept.for being there

last friday night i went out  alone and saw the best screen of fish in many years.The fish are still around yet to come in till the water cools.I wouldn't give up yet as we wait all year for the fall kings.Im busy the next few days but i plan on getting out friday and next week looks good weather.The NE wind blew some cooler water in to boot.Tonight i made my first batch of honey dipped smoked salmon,can;t get better than that.Keep fishing and don't believe its a bad year,the fish are here and it's going to be a suprise for many.

Fished tonight for a couple of hours.Ran into alot of large fish north of portMost were 90 down and had to be kings by the hooks.I had two on and boated a 12 lb laker on green and white spinny and mirage fly.There were a few other boats out along with me.Looks like a early start should be productive tomorrow morning

A good way to trigger the spawners in shallow is to pack up some JPlugs.I use to use three riggers with two rods on each rigger stacked about 10 to 15 apart vary distance behind the ball and make alot of turns especialy if bait is around.I especially worked dropoffs.Took many late kings this wayJpugs or silver hordes with the rattles worked best..Sometimes i would run spoons like diamond kings on the lower rod.s/

Good luck

a bill norman  c rank bait as shown in pic

Years ago my two young sons use to take Dad"s boat out to fish the big lake.One day while bass fishing they hooked up with a monster It was about 28 lbs..As the story goes the fish took them for quite a ride They had gone over a mile east before they landed the fish,all on 6 lb mono.My sons were in there teens then, they still fish but mostly bass and walleye.

This is just one adventure we have had over the years fishing our wonderful fishery on lake Ontario.

We hunt lake ontario and seneca,sometimes other fl.The wonderduck old style motion decoy works well on puddleducks,;We have 20 doxen divers but hardly ever have to put out over a hundred for good shooting.We also have a big water duck boat blind that is also a plus in getting a easy  hunting spot.The flag idea is good,use to flag geese all the time

Nice tripi.keep it simple and stress free and they wil keep going. took my young sons who still hunt many years .Keeps the family together..

Wonderful effort you have made with them

Wonder how a new walleye hatchery for lake ontario would go over,kings are great but nothing better eating than walleye

Good read all....i understand fishing is off but this year was my first trips on Ontario and honestly the fishing didnt seem nearly as tough as i read about. I think most are spoiled and forgot how good we have it....how can we expect AMAZING fishing every year...seems as though fishing has always had ups and downs

King Davy

I especially like your comments on releasing fish. 2 years ago a guest on my boat took me for steelhead in the SR and I caught a nice one put it on a stringer and quit. A couple guys said i really should release it. I then sat and watched the guys catch 20 or so and release them all...i figure they all killed at least one or more, but i got the dirty looks carrying out the ONE fish i came for...i havent been back.

Folks, thanks for all the comments and insight.. Please consider that I am all very new to the lake fishing but have been fishing the tribs for over 35 years.. First as you all may know I have been out on the lake from Mexico EVERY single weekend  since June 13th and struggled severely.. We just haven't been catching many fish (4 salmon, 2 browns, 1 steelhead and a sheepshead) and haven't been marking many fish but do mark lots of pods of bait but don't see the predators around these bait pods.. We have covered TONS of water from the plant to sandy pond in all ranges of depth to 500fow.. Now in saying that we have drawn the conclusion that we are doing something wrong in the lack of fish we are seeing on our sonar and not necessarily or lures..  Last week I figured it would be a sure thing with staging fish but we drew a blank .. I'm not about to get in a pizzing match over tons of boats trying to all fish the same water sow we stayed outside them in 140fow and again marked very, very few fish..

 

Now Davy, you are a master of the future and I enjoy reading your postings which are very well written and explained .. Thank You..

It leads me to questions, I turn helping to learn :

1. hatchery, When the Salmon stocking numbers were reduced (1/2 I believe) what was used in that space they once occupied .

2. Lake trout, do you think the increased stockings are in effort to control Goby

3. I'm pretty sure you covered this before but what was the purpose to start stocking bloaters and herring into the lake

 

I am discouraged in our success but have never felt we were wasting our time because we enjoy every single opportunity to be able to get away from the grinds of everyday work and the possibility is always there , or not.. We call it fishing as well as relaxation & recreation.. 

Thanks:

Rich

hI Rich.

I know whay you mean about catching stream fish,I watch guys fishing steelhead throwing them on the bank then throwing them back,repeating this over and over.many do die as i have seen hundreds of dead trout on our salmon creek.

I ;ile your attitude in taking one fish and calling it

I take a few fish lake fishing especialy the salmon and steel head,lakers to are pretty good

Was on the water Saturday and Sunday (9/5 & 9/6). Saturday we had a good bite going in the morning, mag glow spoons and black and silver with a red dot were hot. Fished in 150 FOW on an east west run between Bear Creek and Pultneyville, after 10 AM the bite fell off.  We tried putting things further from the ball (30’ – 50’), changing rotator sizes, fly’s and moved in to 75’ – 100’ FOW, no luck. However, I did manage to drop my wallet in the big O.  Happy Birthday to me!

 

Sunday we got a later start, on the water (6:30 AM) my nephew never fished for salmon and thought we are nuts for 5 AM wakeup call. We setup as we did on Saturday morning for the morning bite. Had three good hits once my nephew got the rod he would point the rod at the water and real slow, lost all three. Mid-morning I had a rigger fire and grabbed it, ensured the fish was hooked and handed the rod off again with a lot of coaching, he landed his first king. It was small but it was a keeper and my nephew was most happy. This was on a 11†Mountain Dew paddle with a PRO-AM fly with a 36†leader. I was happy for the second hook as the leader to the treble hook broke inside.

 

The rest of the morning, the bait seamed to move in towards the 125’ – 80’ FOW range. We setup our run west past the power plant, with little activity on the screen and no hits. After changing up the presentation and again pushing things back of the boat further, still no action.  I decided we would make the turn and head back (east) towards Bear Creek. The wind had died down and the water was nearly flat along with the air temperature was hot. I noticed that our down speed was nearly 3.4 after the turn and before I could slow us down, the 300’ copper was off and running. It was short lived as the braided line broke at the planer board. Dang!

 

After recovering the planer board, we continued east and began to pick up as it was nearing 2 PM. I decided to drop my second 300’ copper in the port side as a longline (300’ copper and 100’ braid out). We took pictures and cleaned the king. As we began picking up the remaining gear on the starboard side the 300’ copper was screaming… with a whole lot of jumping out of the water some 400+’ behind the boat. My nephew landed a nice 10.5 lbs. rainbow. After placing the fish in the box I decided to dropped the copper back out again.

 

After pictures, fish and boat cleaning, the 300’ copper was running again! What, you are kidding me… Nope, we lost it, put the rod away, and went home.

 

The things that I found interesting was, copper was outperforming everything else as the water became calmer. Orange on gold (mag chicken wing) continues to produce fish. In addition, we had a down speed of 3.0 – 3.5 which is what I would have consider way too fast. Finley, my last thought was I had two good hit after cleaning fish. Maybe chumming works, although I do not think it is allowed.

Great report.hope the kings stick around 

Whew that storm came out of no where.It was bright sun and in a flash the storm moved in.It was a good thing i turned on the weather and they had the warning.Wel It actualy blew by me before i got back as it was 8 miles out from port,never saw any lightning.The fishing was great for lakers but no luck on kings,did mark alot of fish high either coho or steelhed  40 over100 .Temp was 45  degrees 70 down over 90

One thing i use to do when salmon fishing especially with J plugs was to resharpen the hooks after every fish.If i didnt the chances of losing them rose considerably.I troll with copper and divers now but to big of a spread might hurt especially with a big fish,better to pull some rods and turn back then to try and bring a big fish in.I hardly ever lost a king by turning back.There are alot of salmon around still a good month left for good fishing in the lake,hopefully.lol

fished yesterday late and stayed in shallow where the thermocline hit the bottom in 70 ft.Got a real nice bass on the 300 copper.Almost got it in had to be over 6 pounds.I did mark some fish in 90 ft 60 down but no hits.Itwas a beautful sunset .My fish held up on the leaders board.First win for me in over 30 years of LOC.

Outside the derbys I rarely see a boat down where i fish Years ago the harbor had over a dozen boat and they used them.Today everyone is on the computer little time for real fishing.Same goes for sailboats.

What realy bothers me the most is parents allowing their kids to spend endless hours on the net,sort of a cheap babysitter.No time for fishing or family.

Some day they will regret the choice

Fishing wa fair this afternoon.5 lakers ,2 skippers and a nice coho.Again the silver bullet red nose took three fish including a nice laker.Coho came on a red flasher bait rig .Tomorrow should be good fishing.We ended up 8 miles from port

Good luck tomorrow

I fish Lake Ontario.I have a 27 ft searay fuly eqiped trout and salmon.Looking for a erie walleye  fisherman who would show me erie waleye fishing for a fall salmon lake fishing trip.My boat is about 25 miles east of rochester.

Thanks guys

john

going out this morning ,wish you all good luck

john

Hey ine been fishing since it started here back in the seventies,I still run my own ship,even with Parkinson.haha

The way you survive PD is to keep moving,no retreats or surrenders.Fish to the last fish and hunt to the last duck

Got a late start but the fishing was still good.Boated a 20 lber right off our point 115 90 down on a carbon 14 mag spoon,black and glow back.Later i found some good brown action on a mag nk green glow tape black .Alsp frog spoons worked well on the browns.Lakers were very plentiful but seemed to avoid them by not using that green dot on white spinner.Quite a few boats out today wish it continues,like the old days when there were always many boats trolling off our port and hughes

last evening we gave it a nother try.,We were 5 for 5 all lakers on a green dot white spinny with a mirage fly on a dipsey down about 80 ft over 120.All fish came on the one rod.I did mark some larger fish short on time.Nice evening little sunset though.Be back today

Al the kings we have caught also had been laying on the bottom for awh le.What makesit tough is the quaga musscles out there.It use to be easy.Last night I caught a few lakers who had a full mouth of quaugas,took the fly all the way down in their bellys,lol

Time to run J plugs in a pack.

Fishing is such fun,what better way to spend our summers