john1947

great post Nick.Your  crew is greatly appreciated here with all you do. Getting reel at PO this morning.

Many big kings to come yet..

Some years ago I sort of gigged a nice king up 90 ft. off the bottom.I was trolling a copper sutton 38 and had a flutterfly 38 brass and silver on a cheater line.Somehow I got hung on bottom and yanked and yanked .The king hit the butterfly and the battle was on .Thirty minuetes later it was tired enough to net.If you could get those butterflys down they would do the job.I still catch many kings on 38 silver and brass. This was one of my sure  luresI used evryday trolling.But then I hardly ran myself much over 2 unlesss I usd hordes,js,or diamond kings.

Tomorrws ticket is hordes over diamond kings in close.Keep you posted.

Hi,

lately I have been getting facts and what to do to bring back the smallie on LO.Ive talked to several private hatcheries who specialize in smallmouth.My conclusion is that it can be done but it's not going to be cheap.Smallies can be raised on liver pellets much like trout.They supposedly have to taught but about half the cost using fatheads.It usally takes about 13 lbs of fatheads to raise a 1 lb smallie.

There are some shortcuts and we could lower the cost signifcantly.TheNYS state hatchery crew is a very capable bunch of guys who could realy make a go of this.

The goby presents problems but what are they?Does the goby eat the nest before it hatches?Does the goby eat the bass young?Lastly does the goby consume to much of the food needed by the bass fry.

The biologists might have important  information  that could solve these riddles

other questions would be how big do the young bass need to be before released to raise serviabilty.

Is there anyway we could curtail the goby population .Would a electro shock kill the goby but not other species?Just a idea.

My thinking would be to mass stock certain areas around the lake till be get back to a good bass population.

One way maybe of getting more attention would be to form a Lake Ontario Smallmouth Restoration United.(LASRU)

The quicker we get together on this the sooner the bass will be back.

Maybe our excellent  NYS Hatchery crew could comment on any of these ideas.

Bringing back the smallie could energize the fishery and get kids fishing again and off the box

Good Fishing

John

Anyone interested in meeting on this let me know.

many years ago my sons caught a 28 lb. on a crank bait.They chased it from pultneyville almost to huningford .One son has the pic and the rod was a spinning rod with 6 lb test. Now that was a fight.At that time I stupily worked alot of saturday overtime. I missed out on special days like that.Well Im back now fishing the lake but its more like a morgue compared to its famous past.Things are more like the old days if you go west toward the OAK,Good fishing

ill be back Saturday can do sunday joe

well I usaly run them back on the side riggers alot more than the center rirgers.Also care I dont cross them when they go down,a very easymistake.I use to use cheaters alot.ran the cheater about 7 ft. on a snap attached to a rubber ban and contected to sliding roamer maybe 8 ft about bottom line..It works everytime just have to be tedious that everything is right.Double check everything before it goes down was my motto

Wish i could get all the kings you get on dipsys nick.I use to get all i want on a small dodger and squid.with a chasing silver horde stacked above it.It was run about 1.75 at the fastest.the water i think is to clear.Ever see the youtube of the St peter of Hughes.Its as clear down there maybe more than the top now..quages realy cleared it up since the old days.

I might buy a electric reel to use on copper ,ebay has quite a few but they weight alot is the only catch.Some 5 lbs.i was looking at.

good fishing Nick

I fished this morning .It was non stop for me mostly lakers and browns.Lost one king for sure.My old diamond king mag with glow and gree tape took most,Green and white glow prochip and blue fly took a few.The rest came on the gator spoon and assorted MS stadard. A true mx probaly didnt make much what you gave them.few boats what a shame the storm frightened everone off,but we had no thunder till about 130pm

The weather app i use on my phone realy made the day

Love the downrigger summer fishing ,you cant beat it nowhere.

Now I neeed more helpers

nice fish,tried leadcore the other night ,got alot to learn,

good idea ill look into it

thanks

john

Thanks Capt. Rich,

Im also looking intoa good rod helper,who knows maybe a deep water salt water chair might not others who can't  join in as well as they would like.

Lots of good guys and vets would like to go if their bodies would allow them.

Best'

 Retired Captain.John

Any input on this option would be welcome.I fish with guys who can't reel for very long,myself included.parkinson will stop you

Never hear of anyone talking about this option.

Thanks

john

thank I got a solution,how about a electric reel,ive seen some on ebay pretty reasonable,one question are they legal for our fish.I do know a few guys that would need them due to disabilitys,my arm can lock up sometimes and cant reel well.One is less than a regular reel,Miya Epoch me 600 Big game Electric reel

I have been watch several deer come up through my property,seems like alot of them have some tick problems.

I ran accross this idea which seems cheap and very effective,maybe the DEC might look into this to reduce deer ticks and lyme disease

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=deer+tick+treatment+salt+lick&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=510475EAD9CCD2A145D3510475EAD9CCD2A145D3

well my physical limitations I have now will keep me with dipseys,you can catch more fish than one would ever need,buying a new frezzer next week,something tells me Ill need it ,lol

One thing I use to was smoke salmon,took it into work all the time ,salmon with bagels and cream cheese

had a nice visit today,the winter was not so bad,lots of apples left from last years bumper crop,see deer every day now

Im looking for practicality of using dipseys set straigth back(zero setting )vs using copper.Any experiences doing this would be welcome

thanks

john

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fRThDxlqMVg

60 plus mph and about 15 mpg

make it accross the lake in a hour.

Now this is a toy Id like to have

Last year I went to using black dipseys.I caught fish but not many more than before with green or chrome.Also using a dipsey set at zero straight backseems to work so why bother with copper.

I heard late last year that guys were having good luck on glow dipseys Anyone experienced using dipseys with outriggers?.Any imput welcome.I now have set up my boat to run two dipseys on each side conditions permiting.

nice report.Loks like it's salmon time again.

 Nick,I hear you had a great day.Im down with the flu,think I got it eating out this week Beware

my son caught a whopper back in 94. It was a 38 lber would have won the derby except he caught it the night before.Took over a hour to boat it.Many big fish,many good memories.Im sure he will never forget the fight.We did fish one day before that offshore race many years ago.The one  where a few boats broke apart and there was a terrible loss of life.That was the roughest we were evr out but the fishing was awesome.

didnt go out but saw a few boats off hughes.probably 100 fott mark or further

Must be rough, lol, even the sailers didnt venture out far yesterday,

 nick,is your boat trailerable,fishing seneca might be a option on days like this

We marked quite a few large fish sunday 90 down over 140.They were last year also in the same area.Can,t wait till we get a better thermocline.Talked to another boat monday .he took ten lakers on the bottom in 200.Never fished that deep before Now that must take alot of skill.     

Ii

Have found coleman spray with 40%deet very good for the little bears.

I also spray on before I go out works best.

soon the fleas will be here, summer heaven, hot, bugs, frustration, only a screamer makes it worth it