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Nice guys, just passed by an absolute giant buck trotting along a field just south of Dundee. Sitting here on 14a with a flat tire on a trailer that I borrowed wish I had hunted tonight! Got help coming of course I didn't bring a spare! Lol Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Congratulations Rob! Great bow buck!! Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

iced him!! Nice job! We must be behind you guys a few days, dead here drove around this morning not one deer on its feet. Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Kausch shaped maybe custom painted Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I'd say Luhr Jensen Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Very true Les. I would say that the action of the spoon is directly related to speed. So I wouldn't be running a small NK at 1.8 it won't flip. But running a few thin flutter spoons at that speed would be the correct action. I like Jason's lures (fingerlakes lure co.) and run them a lot. Having options that may fit the fishes mood is the key in having a well filled box of spoons, quick fish, ff's, stickbaits, and whatever else you may run. Test a lure before you run it one of the best pieces of advice I got was to get that Sutton to go dodge, dodge, flip. Killer on the fingerlakes Lakers. Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Very true Les. I would say that the action of the spoon is directly related to speed. So I wouldn't be running a small NK at 1.8 it won't flip. But running a few thin flutter spoons at that speed would be the correct action. I like Jason's lures (fingerlakes lure co.) and run them a lot. Having options that may fit the fishes mood is the key in having a well filled box of spoons, quick fish, ff's, stickbaits, and whatever else you may run. Test a lure before you run it one of the best pieces of advice I got was to get that Sutton to go dodge, dodge, flip. Killer on the fingerlakes Lakers. Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Oh yea, 47, and he makes a fingerlakes custom that rocks, never enough poles to run em all! Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Alpha alewife, all colors, Bob barker, Anaconda,California puke. third eye blind, can't remember all the names. Help me out Joe Joe, Nick Heck any or all of them.. Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Dvd, that's a booner. If not its close, his right side has a lot more bone than his left but either way he is a slammer for NY. Unfortunately he may be on the" big boy walk about" hope the hot does in your area keep him on your property. Good luck!! Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I think that was a good idea to try the carpet penetration. The effect I was trying to speculate on was caming the arrow in towards the deer with the nock end angling out. Which is what you said happened. The principle that the blades float after impact reduces the cutting effect after the deer starts running. I'd like to see a study on penetration and different angles, using high speed photography seeing how the two blades react as they come into hide. There may be a big difference if the blades come in at say twelve and six or nine and three. The swacker made their length from tip to blade longer to fight this problem. My theory may be flawed because I can't prove it scientifically but I have seen the results and that's where I'm coming from and trying to explain it. Good hunting to all! Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I agree! The weather and clouds will reduce the length of daylight kicking those first doe into estrus. Photoperiodism, love it!! On Halloween we should see some major boys trolling! Think I'll go fishing... not. Go get em folks! Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Congratulations on the buck! The rage really do shine with a low and back hit no doubt! Would the deer have died from a hit with a fixed blade, probably yes but maybe not as fast. Both are lethal but each has their advantages. I feel that fixed blades have more killing advantages than expandables. JMO Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

So after 3k views and much debate on the subject there are definitely variables that make the rage or expandable head not superior to a well tuned bow with a fixed blade broadhead. My new thought on this particular shot is this: If you are shooting an angle into the deers body the one blade can enter the hide along with the tip with the rear momentum of the arrow going forward the arrow kicks the nock end away from the penetration. Giving you the floppy arrow and poor penetration. I think that having 2" wide blades going into the hide, if the blades are vertical probably ok on the penetration, if its perpendicular no good. ( Cam effect) Therefore I would say that a three or four blade design may get better results on steep angles or quartering angles. This debate is great BTW. Sorry about you losing the buck, my money says there are a bunch of guys that read this that didn't post that have taken questionable shots( not saying you did) but don't want to be embarrassed, I've done it, I learned from each one. Guess that's my point, this post should teach us all to make smarter choices. Be it your choice in broadheads or your choice with shots and placement. Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

May have been this one we found. Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

5-14 and 3-9. Big tie for third or eleventh, lol!! Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

FLTA tourney today 15 or so boats, Only two bows weighed in! We fished around Glenora and found 38.5 degree water on top just North of there, every where else was 52. We caught one short salmon and had a good one on briefly on the rigger. Toughest fishing I have ever seen on that lake. Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

55-56 on top with a funky current headed south... Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thanks guys. Looking forward too Sunday! Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Lighter color blood with bubbles, lung, dark red can be tough maybe liver or muscle, smell it, it will truly smell a little like liver. Fatty, blood covered arrow can be deceiving your exit hole is what leaves the evidence on your arrow. Smelling your arrow gives up a lot of info. If you shoot a deer and you get a green arrow wait 12 hours minimum! You will track that deer for about 200-300 yards if you don't spook it on your way out. When in doubt back out! If the deer beds carefully examine the bed and it should tell you location if the hit. Note the height of blood on brush and if a pool of blood is formed carefully pull leaves back and find front and back foot prints and the center of the pool will also tell hit location( front to back). Pay really close attention to the little details, go slow and mark your trail, if is its a great blood trail and it suddenly stops look for a double backed deer. As I posted earlier most guys are really good at tracking but even the best can go slower and get better at it. Good luck Shoot em up guys n gals! Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

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Fished Seneca today 8-2pm. Wow it was slow til I found a spot with active fish. Went 2 for 7 only two of the fish were on for more than a few seconds. Not much for details being we have our final tourney for FLTA on Sunday. 6 lb. Landlocked put on a show with a coho like tail walk. Temps were 55 on top. Oh also saw where the perch guys were, lol I won't tell, unless you want to know. Sent from my C771 using Lake Ontario United mobile app