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Les, You are absolutely right!! I saw a response on this page somewhere that they can fit 150yds of 50lb braid behind 300 copper on their 50 Saltists and didn't question it. I just knew the mono backer I have is not enough. I have a great excel chart that lets me play with reel capacity and line size. Here is what I found today when I played with the excel chart Based on the the reel capacity of 30lb mono 350yds thickness of 0.022" Here is what will fit on the Daiwa Saltist 50s that I have 300' of blood run copper at 0.033" diameter 35' of 30lb leader at 0.022" For backing it says I can get 750' of 50lb power pro at 0.014" and the reel will be at 96.6% full and at 825' of 50 lb power pro it will then be 99.5% full You also need to account for any mono backer you use to start the wraps on the reel as I don't tape my reels up or tie braid straight to the spool. With that said 700' of braid should fit nicely. I usually shoot for ~98% full on my reels That is a lot better, I have found the chart to be very accurate when filling my lead core rods and needing to know backing lengths. Les thanks for the kick in the pants to do my homework and not just rely on something I saw. People make typos or use lines of different diameters, say feet when they mean yards, or sometimes I just misread things! I continue to say this is the best site ever where guys are always helping each other. Tight lines Terry

You don’t have to worry about it Jack and I will fight em, they were also responsible for our biggest fish! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I have read the stickies on this subject which are great and many other posts but have a question still. I bought a few used Daiwa Saltist 50s last year already spooled up with 300 copper and they have mono backing. Had a few fish run taking me farther down the spool then I am comfortable and cranked up the drag to stop them. I want to change the mono backing out to 50# power pro braid to get about 450’ of backing. My question is when running a mast and large boards like otter etc... what clips should I use to attach to the braid? I have also read guys splice mono between the copper and braid, is this the preferred method for my set up. I have the large red offshore releases already and used them with no issues on the copper with mono but not sure if the will hold the braid. Terry Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I have two Saltist 50s set up for 300 coppers and I think that is the limit the reels are awesome but your not gonna get 400 on there with enough backing Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thanks for the suggestion that looks like a great spread and would give me a good range and versatility and a good use of the reels capacities. I really appreciate your help. Being newer to the weighted line thing I just don’t want to do things over and over if guys have go to set ups that I should incorporate into my spread. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Legacy and Fishnut Thanks for the recommendations looks like a great choice Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Yankee thanks for the recommendation I may get a pair of the 9’ for my Saltist rods with copper and thanks for the promo code too!!! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thanks for the recommendation Nautitroller are you using MH on your short cores or long cores and copper? Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Well with winter coming up and some time on my hands I am looking to optimize my rod and reel presentation. Already looking at new rods and am now choosing which lengths of LC and Copper to spool up based on the reels I already own. I recently picked up a few that don't have line and I have some already spooled that I wouldn't mind changing to optimize the use of the reels capacity, drag, and retrieval rate. Here is what I have and if it is spooled up what it is set up with. 1 Okuma Magda Pro DX 45 Line counter with upgraded drag and copper levelwind from convector as a 5 color LC 1 Okuma Magda Pro DX 45 Line counter with upgraded drag and copper levelwind from convector as a 7 color LC 2 Okuma Clarion 453 high speed not spooled 2 Daiwa Saltist 50 high speed spooled up with 300' 45# copper (mono backing, which needs to be changed to braid) 1 Okuma Clarion 553 high speed not spooled 1 Penn 340 not spooled I am looking for recommendations, I am thinking of doing the following and not sure if it is the best use of reel and best representation of the "strike zone" Both Magda 45's 5 color Both Clarion 453's 7 color Penn 340 200 Copper or 10 color due to the slow retrieve rate 1st Daiwa 50 Saltist 200 copper 2nd Daiwa 50 Saltist 250 copper Okuma Clarion 553 300 copper If these were your reels how would you spool them up? I am not sure if it makes sense to have two each 5 color and 7 color rods, or if I would be better served Making the 453's a couple 200 coppers, and the Saltist a couple 250 coppers and the Penn and 553 a couple 300 coppers. I appreciate your insight and feedback as trolling LC and Copper is something I just added this year. Thanks Terry

Looking for a little advice as I can't seem to physically put my hands on a rod that I like yet. I fish Lake Ontario and use a single mast with large boards and have no interest in small boards at this time. I know that a lot of the LC rods are built stout to pull the small boards and while using a large board system the rods are not as critical but it is time upgrade as it drives me crazy fishing with all different rods of length and action. I have a bunch of Shimano Triton 200 reels loaded up with 2,3,4 color and a couple Okuma 45 for my 5 & 7. Right now they are on various rods I have collected over 30+ years of fishing and while they work they just aren't ideal. I am looking at the Shimano TDR 86MC2C lead core rods but only online and have not held one. I was wondering if any of you guys with real life experience with this rod can chime in on how you like it. Are these a pool stick and no fun for spring browns? I currently own two 300 copper set ups and use the Okuma Copper/LC rod and love it for that but thinking it would be a bit much for the short core reels. I would be happy to hear other suggestions of rods that have large eyes that LC passes through easily as this is one of the things I am trying to "upgrade" from as well as satisfy my OCD of all things matching. Thanks Terry

Great seller, shipped the reels fast and they were better than described condition!! Thanks again!

I am looking for at least one Shimano Charter 2000 reel and would consider buying 3 if the price was right. Please let me know what you have. (I saw that I just missed out on 4 that Hookmeup sold). Thank you Terry

Thanks Legacy, That was a great write up and I have read it several times. I continue to reference great articles like this to pick something new up every time. Terry

Thanks guys for the recommendation of weighted steel. You recommended 350' is that a 300' spool of weighted line 50' of 19 strand and braid backer to fill spool? I see torpedo only has 200 and 300' spools. Terry