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I don't know how true it is but I heard The Fish Hawk people gave Cannon a great deal on that Downrigger cable . 

So Look at the angle of your cables as judge of speed . 

If you have 12# weights and you have 90 ft of cable out , your angle back should be about 30 deg . If they are 10# more angle . 

You should be slow  turning constantly with , against ,and sideways to the waves so your lures are going the right speed at least some of the time.  Look at GPS speed and direction of troll on hit . 

Standard and Mag spoons in the PROVEN colors for best chance of hits 

 without speed indicator , your dipseys should be your best producers . 

You can get a surface speed temp probe add on for your depth finder which will help a lot for not a lot of money . I used one for years before my fish hawk . 

I use the Scotty pinch pads and love them . 

On the back of the release where the cable line is  , push that plastic piece back for better grip . 

I set my releases so tight , I have a hard time popping  it when I want to change . But a good fish has no problem releasing it and I get a good hookset . 

I have 2 friends that have the same riggers . One lost 2 probes , the other 1 . 

I also had Mag 10s and loved them 

My new to me boat came with Walker tournament riggers . They are great . If I need new riggers some day ,they won't be Cannon . Unless they are the Tournament ones . 

With all the problems I hear about those riggers , let's put it nicely , there are much better options . 

To much weight ? I thought those riggers we're rated for up to 20# 

Give them to Fred Sanford . 

49 down  90 is not bad temp IMO 

I was working on the lake today and there were offshore winds all day . So it probably blew some of that warm water out and the temp should not be as deep . 

Lake flips with strong  sustained east winds . 

3 hours ago, Yankee Troller said:

July/August when you're fishing thermoclines 40-80' down the same things Salmon are eating the Steelhead will chew. We're also typically running regular and mag sized spoons. Colors for this time of year are 42nd, Martel, NBK, Rodfather, Frog, Moon Cricket, Sea Sick Waddler, and Green Jeans,

Great minds think alike 😂

Not necessarily . 

I have got a lot of steelhead this month and they have been hitting the same thing the kings  have.  

That includes flashers . Today was an 11 " paddle with my rig 90 ft down hooked 3 nice steelhead . But I do think they like the 28 size  spoons generally . Frog , Black silver UV , Spook or Lazer Spook , NBK have all been good . 

I think location is most important . Can't catch what is not under your boat . 

Whenever Coyote K and I do the tag team thing with our boats , we almost always do well . 

Eliminate water fast and figure it out.

We found a spot and did some circles and a few boats made a beeline towards us . Not the first time . 

Salmon 

Last day of July and of the LOC 

After the north wind yesterday we decided to head offshore. 

Ran out at dawn and set down in 350 and headed north . Best was 400 to 430 . 

Temp was down 85 for us . 

Put all our eggs in one basket and ran all flashers rigs , one each on my 2 riggers and one on each dipsey . Ended up with 3 nice steelhead and 2 good Salmon . A few more good rips on the dipseys . My rig , Which has been catching a few has not been the stud early on but today and last trip out was the man.  

I just looked on the tournament website and it states it is cancelled . 

Which kind of sucks 

My brother told me they can't get people to run it . 

Don't know how true that is . 

Maybe that was you that was around us off the nose  yesterday morning offshore .  . 

We hooked 3 good kings and landed 2  biggest 20# . 

Flasher bite for us as that was all I we were running . 

Also 3 steelheads and some shakers . 

We had to go to work so we left 930 

I had my 1986 305 Chevy ,230 OMC cobra converted from point to Electronic  . Best thing I ever did for that motor . Never had a problem with it . Boat ran flawless . 1/3 better gas mileage . Trolled  .smoother . Shifted great . 

Tommy from East Fork marine did the work . Did an awesome job as usual . 

Manny , we have all had those days . 

Me more than I like to admit . 

I feel your pain . 

My 21 ft hardtop with 305 Chevy came with a 15 /17  prop 

I dinged it and  brought it to Spinneli to fix and buy a spare . He sat down with me and suggested a 15 1/2  / 15  prop  . He said these fishing boats get loaded with equipment and coolers and that prop would have better performance . And he was spot on . It has better hole shot , better cruising in waves . I lost a little top  end but it was better all around and better trolling . 

There are 3 islands in front of the 1000 island park . 

Drift down around them 

We did well about 25 years ago with pike and bass for years 

10 to 20 ft deep 

My nephew , who is big into racing boats in FLA , told me I should get a stainless steel prop . 

I said I don't need the speed . 

He said they can't get the cup and pitch in an aluminum prop like they can in stainless . He said with aluminum , you have basically 1 gear. Also said I would get better gas mileage . 

I don't know anything about any of that , but he has built from scratch a 30 ft offshore racing boat and is a certified offshore racing official ,so I trust his opinion . 

I have seen props in his garage that he has sent out to have machined  and ported . They are really something to see . 

So I have to ask , not to be a dick, but if you say that has been a killer spoon for you , and they are impossible to find  , why would anyone give one up? 

We did about the same time frame and it was the same for us . 

And we had pretty much the same results . 

Spoon bite also . Although we had a few shakers  and Lakers on the flasher set up . 

Our biggest was 20# and lost another ripper on the dipsey . 

I have a Control King that came with the boat . 

Works great . 

I fish in my row boat a lot  just before dark quite a bit . 

There are some " Shady " characters  there . 

Did my smaller boat as Homemade 

4 minutes ago, SHOOTER544 said:

so what good does the probe do me for speed when to get to 2.1mph down 80' and i have to do a surface speed of 4.7mph to get there(2.1mph) when surface speed is so much higher the cables angle back causing an in accurate read?and im using 15lb weights.

 

There are times I have had to go 4+ mph surface to catch fish . 

I could not care less about SOG or surface speed . Do yourself a favor and turn the surface and SOG off . Trust your probe for deep water fish . Vary the speed and duplicate it on the strike . It's as simple as that . 

If the fish are shallow , my probe doesn't go out for fear of loosing it and I use my surface speed on my depth finder . 

Atlantic's run the river to spawn from Oct to Dec + 

How cool would it be for trib guys to have a healthy population of them to pursue ? Would make our great trib fishery even greater .