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Great assessment  of the current king  situation Capt Vinny . 

I agree and have been saying a lot of what you pointed out  for a while . 

I also believe the natural reproduced fish have adapted to the lakes ecosystem and  are surviving better . 

I feel a lot of the fish I have been catching in my trib are nat reproduce . As we were stripped of our pen fish for the greater good . But we can't know that because the stocked fish are not marked . 

The efficiency of the modern trolling fleet coupled with the many tournaments lake wide depletes  many of the larger fish . 

Back in the day there were 3 times the kings stocked but we did not catch the numbers season long we do now . 

Also , there is a lot of trib angler bashing on this site . Seems to me with the above post , those trib angles could have a lot to say . 

I really don't know what some of you guys expect from this fishery . I caught about a dozen kings yesterday . And one Atlantic about 7# . The run in the Salmon by the people up there is best it's been in a lot of years . So there are fish . Lake fishing for me this year after Aug 1 was not great . Some years are better than others ,that's just the way it is . Can't be lights out every year . 

The lakes ecosystem will only support so much bait with the clean water . Which dictates amount and size of kings. That's the long and short of it . 

The Atlantic's  program will do absolutely nothing to the overall of the Kings . 

What difference does it make to the DEC about  the amount of Kings stock ? Is there a conspiracy to make the fishing bad ? They are doing what they think is best for the overall fishery . I don't agree with them on some stuff but they do a great job . 

And 20 % each year over 3 years is probably more like a 50% total .

6 hours ago, Trouthunter said:

I agree with alot of your points but nothing will change until us fishermen stand up & do something about it

What do you suggest we do about it? 

The lakes ecosystem will only support so much bait . 

I agree with Yankee 

Can't remember a year that the surface shimmered silver with dead alwives . 

And with our antiquated electronics , we would see schools of bait that seem to go in forever . 

Fish are smaller and seem to be less aggressive , at least this year . 

After long  courageous battle with cancer ,the wife of Coyote K / Ken Frearson is about to go home to the Lord . 

Just thought you guys might want to know . 

Fished first light 10 to 70 ft . 

No salmon not a lot of marks . No jumpers . 

Went thru this a few years back .

Got a big smallmouth  on a # 4 glo green j plug down 35 ft . 

This morning 2 hrs 

Tonight.    1 hrs 

No hits 

Got some smallmouths this afternoon . I over 4# . 

Went out before dark last night . No hits. Saw best marks at 70 on bottom 

Been out twice . No fish . No jumpers.

Fished  row boat bass  at the mouth twice . No jumpers . 

A few fish jumping in the creek . 

Only a few guys fishing the creek and they are not doing well. 

Back out this morning . I need some Skien . 

Don't get me started about the pen  fish . More on that later . 

I had a 1986 230 hp OMC cobra .And I owned it brand new and sold it last year .  

Other than the fact I had to have the outdrive rebuilt after a ton of hrs, it was fine . 

My guess is it's just for the day to work on something 

I can see them closing the launch for the year but why would they close the parking lot  for the year ? 

But who knows 

Annual  pike / bass fall trip usually to the ADKs was moved to Fair Haven . Awesome weather with food friends and food .

The fishing was great  . Not huge numbers but quality fish . 

Fished the bays over weeds and weed edges with limited success . 

Tried deeper water  near drop offs and found fish . 

We got about 25 bass , smallmouths mostly . We never got a one smaller than 15" which amazes me . 

Small crankbaits and Senko style ned rigged were our best 

The closest bar . 

Where are you located ? 

I agree with first and last part of day .

But you can get hits mid day sometimes.  

I  run a small boat program with 2 riggers one lure each rigger . 

If I start shallow , I'll run the j plug 50 to  100  ft back and keep the ball just under the surface . 

But sometimes I run a slide diver  . 

First light start close and work out . 

J plugs for me #3 and #4 

Glo green or pearl black dot my favorites 

After first hour or so silver read head among others 

35 to 125 ft leads one rigger 10 ft off bottom ( 7 if you are brave ) and one half way down both same leads to avoid tangles . 

After sun starts to come up try the 35 to  90 ft depth and look for them on  the bottom . 

Spoons  and flashers also work but I like my J Plugs . 

One of my new to me Walker Tournament riggers had a pice inside the motor break . And it can't be fixed or replaced . In my shoet time of using them  , they are the nicest riggers I've used . Small , smooth , fast enough . 

I need new ones .

What do I buy ?  

Word on the creek is they are pulling the sailboats this weekend . 

38 minutes ago, GAMBLER said:

Were they near the eastern pier?  I had 5’ all the way in yesterday.

Nope 

In the middle just outside the pier heads . 

I was in my rowboat at the end and they were coming in . I heard some noise and looked up and the boat came to an abrupt stop and the bow went down and the crew was thrown forward . They had the motor going and we're rocking the boat back and forth for about 15 min before I left . 

The boats name was .... SMACK . 

I wanted to  crack wise but thought better of it . 

Heads up 

Was fishing for rowboat bass tonight and witnessed a sailboat hit the bottom and get hung up . 

Between the ends of the pier 

I threw a bunch in a bonfire 

Pretty cool 

When the lake is calm for a few days this time of year , there is 70 + degree water down to 50 to 70 ft . Strong west ,south or north winds may push that deeper or shallow but it doesn't make surface temps 40 . 

So east winds should just push the top layer around the lake clockwise like whirlpool in your scenario ? 

Nope , I don't buy the current has nothing to do with it . I think it has  everything to do with it . 

But I could be wrong . 

I defer to you on this Sheldon 

And also it is my experience that fish do not like the unstable churned up water and stay in the more stable water as it gets pushed out . 

But  in a word , everyone sure does know what it means when it happens. 

I just watched that video. That is not  a true representation of what happens . That video shows a tank with cold on one side and warm on the other . Then they pull a wall and it disperses . 

What actually happens is there is warm water on the entire surface of the lake .  The prevailing current is west to east . Then the north east wind forces water towards shore and forces the warm water north while churning up the ice water . So actually it does flip . 

The word we that have been doing this awhile use is " flipped " . And we all know what it means.

I run straight north till I hit 65 deg and troll north.