HB2

Nope 

The fish are changing now 

Just cured some skein . Thought it would be tighter than it was . 

Lake flipped

You want kings , go find stable water 

Went out to 300 and headed north 

Nothing for our efforts but one small salmon and 2 knock offs 

Hit 520 and got a,double of matures 

Wound up 6 fish . 5 salmon and a steelhead and about  5   more hits 

Dare I say , Gary D rig and spoon bite . 

Got 50deg   70  ft down out there 

Radar said storms so we headed back in   and it was the smart call

Was,pretty choppy 11 miles out. 

The mountains care calling and I must go 

Headed back up next weekend to my Happy place up there . Boys weekend 

Good food and whiskey

And yes it sure do put things in perspective . 

You should go , as all should , even for a short trip . 

Three islands in front of thousand island park . 

Good for pike 

Some base also . 

Haven't been there in years . 

My buddy got a 50"  musky  there . 

I use a 5/8 or 3/4 spade bit 

No flotation 

I tie them off on my mid ship cleat and they Run on side of my boat 2/3 to 3/4 back from my bow . I had them so they were in front of my side riggers 

You want them so you can grab rope easily to put in or out . And wAke from boat Will kind of push them away from side a little . 

Word on the street is she got it on a Gary D rig . 

3 hours ago, Captsmate said:

Thank you for the info..my work schedule only allows me to come up mid September and i hear the kings dont bite at that time. I hope i can troll a few up..

Don't bite then ? 

You must be joking . 

But first light and just before dark is best

35 to  75 +  for j plugs 

Shallow ,farther back 

Deeper can be closer 

Mid day doldrums , run it back 125 ft 

Look for them mid day on  bottom  at 50 to   90 ft 

Run weights 7 to 10 ft off bottom to account for dive  of plugs . 

I run my flashers 25 to 35 but no bites on calm seas bright day I have run them  back 80 ft to get a hit . Works sometimes . 

I'm sure glad we have Tommy at Sandy . 

I figured out that my line woes were more bite offs than break offs . Some of them were ahead of the head . I think they were swallowing the whole thing . 

Solved that with  50# braid through head allbrighted  Just ahead of the baithead ton 25 #  . 

Never had a break off from diver to lure . 

I use 30 or 40 big game we for that .

I'm still not a fan of Flouro .  

You need 2 

Green glow j plug

Silver red head j plug 

Your choice of #3 or # 4 

And  I agree 

One flasher / fly 

Maybe someday

Got to love that flourocarbon !

If you can get one manual downrigger and mount it where you can deploy and get at it safely and easily it will be a big addition . 

Get a few J plugs and come up to LO 3 rd week in Sept to middle of Oct for shallow kings . 

There are a lot of nice flat mornings you can fish . 

Go to the Oak and bring bass tackle if it's rough . 

Two rods out , are all you need . 

I will apologize in advance for giving you your first taste of crack . 

I have the same riggers as those,for my 16 ft aluminum . I love to troll for staggers off the creekmouths . 

I use 10# herbies . Fish shapped   . 

8# would probably be ok down to say 50 ft . 

Fishing starts mid Sept for them . First light bite is best . 

I use #3 & #4 j plugs almost exclusively . 

White with black dots, glow green ,or silver red head  are my go to. Look circulars and,fish under them   

35 to 75 back .1  Ball set 10 ft off bottom 

1 set half way down . 

I sometimes,in shallow set my rigger just under the surface maybe 2 ft down . 

Check the drags,on those as  they dry up .

 Back from the ADKs and got out about 430 .

Fished 70 to 90 

East wind pulled cold water up to 44 at 35 ft . Tried with no hits . 

Pulled lines and headed to 220 . North troll . Getting ready to pull lines and call it and this hit a diver  at 349 ft deep and ripped out 600 ft . 

I'll spare you the details of what it hit as to not offend anyone . 

2 hours ago, dvdegeorge said:

Far too many  dickheads frequent this site that's why I don't post much here anymore ...have fun gal

And I admit I am one of them 

LO salmon last night , top of Scarface Mt  This morning . Ain't life grand ! 

And for those that need there,hand held 

These are the 2 flashers I have been using as of late 

Left is Binwadin 

Right  Mr Jeremy Fisher 

Martha Stewart is in the boat but just like Binwadin 

Hand painted by brush or spray can . Go craft store sprinkles with clear coat . Sharpi for the dots . 

No , I'll say it on here . 

I have been fishing for these,fish since the first stocks . 

Back then we had to figure this fishery out for ourselves , because it was all new . 

You have been doing this 5 years ? 

Well rookie ,let me tell you what .

It's,easy now  . Back then , you  had to know how to fish . 

The equipment  And technology is far superior to what was . SeAsonal patterns are,all well documented . No internet back then to ask questions or find reports . You had to figure it out for yourself . Maybe you should do the same . 

So why do you need me  to tell you what I'm getting them on  And how ? 

 I found something that is kind of new and unique that works for me and thats pretty gratifying . 

I made a lot of my own rods ,  New and innovative flies for steelhead that were killer , bass jigs that were killer , and on and on . 

I'm . Always trying to figure out the next best thing . I consider myself pretty good at it . I help guys,best I can 

And I got to here it from some guy with his panties in a wad   that needs others to teach  him how to fish . 

Tough ? 

I posted exactly what to do with this last year . 

Kind of got some smack for it from  a few on here . 

I'm still trying to perfect it . 

Will I sell some some day ? Maybe , but not in its,current state . 

I'm posting where and what . What else do you want ? 

Hard to get reports on here come Derby time cause guys are tight lipped . But I report exactly what happened , maybe to help someone out .

 Go Get an M/C rocket and accomplish the same thing . 

Put it in a glow  or luminescent head and put it  54" behind an 11" white flasher of some sort 25 to 35 ft behind the ball and run it 2.1 to 2.5 . 

That enough info for you ? 

Afternoon run with the wife my last resort Derby partner  for  few hrs . 

A little choppy  for her . Put out two flashers with my rigs . Went 2 for 5 

1 king maybe 15 and a laker . Dropped what I know ( well maybe ) another king as he ripped out a bunch of line . 

Martha Stewart ( white ) 11" hotspot took all hits 65 down over 75 . This flasher has accounted for at least 75 hits since last mid July . 

Non meat rig I came up with last year that is about all I use lately . It's pretty simple . 

Have not put a fly down this year  behind a flasher . It has only let me down twice this year but nothing works all the time . 

First light though it has been automatic . 

I am still trying to perfect it . But it works great .And I have confidence in it . Which I everything . 

First light 

Flasher down ,  30 seconds later ,hit ..

First 1.5 hrs , Flasher / GARY D rig was on fire. Boated 5 majors in that time . 

11" Hot Spot in Martha Stewart and another I painted this week I will call Mr Jeremy Fisher  both with glow heads . 

45 to 65 down over 70 to 90 

Heck of a current out there today . 

The urge for Mother Nature to keep the specie going is so strong , she will do what she has to . Even if conditions aren't  perfect. 

King salmon were originally from the harsh environment of the Pacific ocean . They don't get to 30# in 3 years by being frail . 

We are 15 generations from the first stocks and IMO they are adapting the LO ecosystem . We already see some evidence of this from staging and timing of staging of spawning runs . 

I don't think some of you guys give mother nature enough credit .