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Missdemeanor

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  1. I'm no die hard deer hunter. After blowing up my shoulder at work, I'm limited to the crossbow these days...
    Had a very serious illness about a month ago, and I wasn't sure I'd get out this season... Well, where theres a will, there's a way. Went down to my buddy's camp in Steuben County for a few days this week. I saw a Lot of small bucks... In fact 7 of us bow hunting never saw one of the big fellas they have had on camera... It's like they disappeared.
    Anyway... Camp rules...8pts or better and out to ears... Wend morning this fella came by giving me a TV show shot ..21 yards broadside....
    A month ago, the Doc told me I should be dead...so this buck means a lot more than the number of inches he scores...
    Felt good to get out in God's country... 1107180953.jpeg1107180945_HDR.jpeg1107180952d.jpeg

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  2. I will address your post Lucky... First off.... I can only answer for the Genny project... The DEC tells us when the fish are being delivered.. We usually only get a few days to a week notice. We cannot put tbe pens in several days or weeks earlier due to the collection of debris, plus in the spring we get current and water height fluctuations so risking destroying the pens before the fish go in isn't an option. Plus the Genny crew needs to coordinate with Skip Shumway when he is available....

    The past 5 or 6 years the pens are put in the water on weekdays in the evening after 1630hrs... Most of us are busy with trips on the weekends, so that's why it's done that way....

    Pretty much standard operating the past few years.... Notifications via Emails, posts on Social Media like here and Facebook...

     

     

     

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  3. I disagree. Nobody HAS to give up their time. It's a pleasure to be able to help either physically or financially with something that improves our fishery. I understand where you're coming from. Who volunteers their time to fix potholes for example? But there are things that go above and beyond what we can reasonably expect from our government, and pen-rearing, which is very labor intensive and on-site at many different locations for a short period of time, falls squarely into that category. When it comes to tax dollars, it's all about cost-benefit. Not enough people benefit from pen-rearing to support what it would cost if DEC took the reins. So the stakeholders pitch in.
     
    I truly believe that it's a stellar system, an example of us at our best.
    Right on!
    If the DEC would allow volunteers to net kings for the egg take, I'd be the first in line. We do the pens out of respect for the fishery.



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  4. Simple spreads are proven to produce more fish....
    For instance, I used to run 5 riggers. As the zebra mussels have cleared the water, the fish can be spooky. I switched to 3 riggers and as an average i took more rigger shots.... My theory is less cable hum in the water column.
    90% of the time I run fixed or slide cheaters in order to get more lures in the strike zone.
    Divers- usually only one per side....
    Junk lines- if it's rough- one copper or lead core ( depending on where the temp is) down the chute.... If conditions are ok ( boat traffic or waves) then I will run one on each side off Otter Boats..
    Simple spreads mean less tangles, your lures are in the strike zone longer, and easier to manage if you get more than one fish on... Tight lines

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  5. I'll through in my 2 bits...
    Do I think the public should foot the bill? To a degree yes..... The DEC provides the fish, transports them to the sites, and gives us the fish food. .... It's our tax dollars and license fees that indirectly do this. So now comes the real need.... Backs... Strong backs to put the pens in and take them out.., volunteers to feed the fish... Money raised by seminars, flea markets, raffles ECT... Are used for net repairs/ pen framing repairs...ect...
    Without the volunteers and donations, the pen projects would not exist, the fish ( kings and Steelhead) would be direct stocked and be victimized by cormorants and other predators...
    So...do we sacrifice a little time and sweat for a successful program ( DEC agrees), or do we go out cheap and lazy hoping the little guys can get enjoyed when they are bigger?

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  6. SMH.... This post is nauseating.... It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks is right... The DEC is going to do what they want.... It's been the same since I've started fishing 40 years ago...

    What else is nauseating is the fact that us lake guys are the ones volunteering time, and raising money for the Penn Rearing programs which the DEC says is a good success. I tend to agree with them. Just recently the DEC commented that the "Trib guys" get involved....now emails are out volunteering from Trib guys... SMH.... Pretty funny that guys stood around with their hands in their pockets for years, but now the DEC hints they should get involved and people are lined up.... Very telling indeed.... See all you guys in the spring.

     

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  7. A lure A .... There is one other way to look at it..... Genetics...
    Steve LaPan has admitted that staff at the Hatchery take both large and smaller "Mature" salmon. Now I don't have a fancy college piece of paper on my wall , but I understand basic genetics... Tall people who have kids...kids tend to be tall... Two chocolate labs bred together tend to produce choc pups...
    In other words.... Genetics can play a big role ...
    I'll go on record to say I saw a ton of bait out there...cleaned a lot of kings ( all had bait in them) ...

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  8. Most of the charter captains are pretty meticulous about their set-ups & equipment and unless they really know you, I can understand why they do things that way. I think the best thing to do is to have a conversation beforehand and maybe he'll allow you to do some simple stuff and maybe you can gain his trust.
    Exactly..... I buy top notch equipment, re tie leaders , use quality terminal tackle. Big money invested.... I can't have my rigs being cracked off, or rods broken because some guy thinks he's Jimmy Houston setting the hook...
    If I have experienced guys out, then have at it boys....but I'm still the boss and I set out the rods, and change the rigs.
    I can tell in the first fish or 2 if the customers know their way around a boat.
    If we are on a great chew and there are kids on board, I will let them pick out a spoon to run....

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  9. Lucky 13....noone can predict what Kings are going to chew on.. One day I ran a mix of spoons and meat... Meat took 90% of my fish.... Went back to the same water the next day... Ran the exact same program and the spoons got chewed...not one single meat hit.
    The conditions were exactly the same... Currents, temps, speed, sunny, depths..ect... So from a scientific standpoint there was no conclusion to be made ( at least not for those two particular days).
    My point is.... Can we accurately guess why a fish will eat one particular bait over the next ? Nope.... Only the fish know..and good anglers will be able to read the bite and adjust their programs accordingly

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