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I understand protecting fish stocks during the spawning months, but in the Nipising case......the spawn was finished months prior. The problem was the MNR's tags kept coming back from kept fish. IMO, it is ok in some locations to cater to anglers who wish to keep fish for the frying pan.

Lets hope the Canadian MNR in their infinite wisdom don't overthink the control of the resource up there. During the early 90's myself and some friends would make an annual pilgrimage to Nipising-Calendar Bay area over Memorial Day weekend. Much to the wormharness toting local's chagrin, we would arrive each year with our stickbait/nighttime tactics and slay the walleyes below the waterfalls in the bay. When we would catch a tagged fish, we would submit the tags to the MNR as responsible indiviguals. Pretty soon the locals got hip to our tactics and the area became a combat zone of stickbait throwers. The MNR closed the area of the lake!!!!!!!!! until the second week of June. We don't go up there anymore. Have you ever heard of an area of a lake being closed because the fishing was too good?

John, my boat is at deer camp. I got few more projects to get done, so I want it close in case I get bored this winter. I 'm probably going to convert the ice box space to a lure tray compartment so I don't have to keep running into the cuddy when I have a "freak-out I got to change my whole spread this ain't working" moment. Did you come up with a name for the new boat yet? I am still angling for the name "Red Ass"......I just want to see a red boat named red ass driving around just to see the shock value. CT3057, painting the boat stripe is easy. Fair any holes with Marine-tex putty, sand with #220, clean, clean, clean, paint, sand, clean, clean, paint, sand if needed, clean, clean, paint. You don't wax a painted surface, it will have it's own shine. Works better with two people. One applying the paint with a roller and one following behind immediately feathering the paint in with a fine badger hair brush.

Thanks John, My boat was next to yours at Boat Doctors. You selling the Bayliner?

I have not fixed the spider cracks yet. That will be a project in the future. I have to figure out the cause before fixing otherwise they will come back. The cracks were there when I bought the boat four years ago. My best guess is cracks probagated around some of the screws in the rubrail during installation. Then years of bumping up against boat bumpers caused the cracks to spread on the upper skin. Maybe someone can chime in with a suggestion for a repair that will match the fininsh of a 1988. :?

Interlux paint. Order from Jamestownoutfitters.com......plenty of helpful tips on the site also. Adam, with paint already on your boat's stripe, you don't have to prime, just sand with #220 on a finish sander.......(no rotary or belt sanders), clean, and paint. It will come out more professional if you apply lite coats with a paint gun, but I don't own one so went with applying with a roller and follow up with a fine badger hair brush. Works better with two people because the paint sets up quick. Three coats. From a distance it looks factory, but up close you will be able to tell.

My project this past spring '08. Take off those air intakes.....and look for wasp nests.....could have been dissasterous. Goal was to change the "cheesey" light blue, for a darker flag blue. Redo rotten rope rubrail. Name boat. Remove marine carpet in back of boat floor and apply a non-slip paint. paint stripe was sanded with a finishing sander and cleaned with clean rags/acetone paint was applied with a roller/brush tip method finished stripe still taped and rubrail off still.

Shore anglers will be against this proposition.......they think trollers have an unfair advantage already. I am for three rods per angler, but with a total limit of nine rods. This only to protect the steelhead fishery. If you allow a spread of twelve rods with the charter fleet in the blue zone, it will affect the population IMO.

Did you decide on a name yet? I still like my suggestion RED ASS.

Let me hear you say LEODIS !!!!!!!

Stan, to compare our fishing as Billy V describes on Lake Ontario, and what conditions you are facing on those Alpine lakes is like comparing apples to oranges. One, we have a primarily a baitfish food supply for the Browns, where as your browns eat crayfish, sculpin, minnows, Parr-stage trout, and primarily invertebrate nymphs. Take what you can from a rigging standpoint from this site, but understand what baits work here.....may not be the best option in the high country. Keep in mind that in Lake Ontario we are dealing with stocking numbers of trout and salmon in the MILLIONS. You can troll the same baits every day in the spring and not worry so much about the fish getting "hip" to a certain lure. You are probably trolling past every trout in the system, so you will continuously struggle to stay one step ahead of the fish by using different baits and techniques.

There are no Kings in the western basin in the spring.....what are you all talking about? I would stay far far away from the Niagara bar if I were you.

In N.Y. for years, many a trout has fallen victim in smaller bodies of water to a Lake Clear Wabbler with a trailing piece of worm. Run a small trailing leader off the Wabbler.....about 24", to a hook with a nitecrawler piece or a tipped streamer fly. Also try a vibrax spinner with the hooks tipped with worm. I am sure these would work out west also.

It may have just fallen off the bridge. Have you seen the state of some of our overpasses? Where the Fack is all our tax money going. It is time to audit the thruway authority.

They will win the next three.

Could you imagine what that guy's hands smell like! :mrgreen:

I have tried them. Pain in the arse! Netting is a nightmare. The extra drag kills the fight of the fish. If I was to use them again, I would hook them up to the downrigger ball, and place the release up the cable a little, then run a bait that dives a little......like a stickbait, kwickfish, willy spoon or hot'n' tot with about a 10' lead. That would put the bait even and trailing behing the "school" of attractors. The slower moving baits I described will also be needed because of the blow-back of the cable....you have to run slower.

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet they cavity-searched you at the border because you where probably smiling from ear to ear.....smelling of day old Canadian beer......and had a wad of cash like a drug dealer.

Tim what time is the clinic? On your thread title you have 11:00pm?

WTF!

The store in Tonawanda took all their salmon stuff off the shelves to make room for the five people who will buy ice-fishing gear this year. All the flashers, dodgers, spoons, some flies etc. are all dumped into the bargain bin. DIG IN it's Christmas in October!

I used to live in Colorado and miss those mountain reservoirs. When fishing is slow, try tipping your lures with a little piece of worm. I used to kill the rainbows using "great lakes" steelhead tactics of using a single salmon egg under a bobber at any inlet/ in-flow of those reservoirs around spawning time .......February around Denver, ice out in the mountains.

Come on Tom, you posted a picture of Ray in a tank top! I am trying to eat my cereal. :shock: The idea of this forum is to try to get MORE people to show up at the Pro/Ams. That picture will not help.

Since this thread has had it's recent "maxipad moments" lets summarize and put it to bed with a poll. Here are the talking points. 1).Observers vs no observers 2). Cull rule in Niagara and maybe Orleans vs no-cull 3). Amateur fish limit 6 vs 9 4). Open communication vs communication blackout between boats 5). Pre-fish friday vs no pre-fish 6). U.S. only water boundaries vs no lake boundaries 7). Amateur money stays on Am. side vs Amateur/Pro shared revenue . Amateur six rod limit vs eight rod limit Maybe Chad Lapa could rig up a poll......I am not smart enough to figure it out on my own, and figure out why #8 is showing up as a cool dude with glasses?

I have to ask....what is the water temp down that deep in your hole? (insert joke here). Browns like water 48-66 degrees. No sense hitting 130' deep if the fish are not there. Here on Lake Ontario if you want browns, the average target depth is probably 60' in a lake that is as deep as some seas. I would imagine on the edges of the hole, there are some shelves, ledges etc. Contour trolling with a good gps lake map sound like the ticket IMO. Fighting a Brown with all that gear (dipsy, copper etc.) will absolutely kill the fun. A big brown on either mentioned junk set-up will feel like a blob of weeds. On the fingerlakes, fisherman have learned to use Sawbellies (baitfish) with a large egg sinker set up, similar to a Carolina rig, fished on the bottom in the target's preferred temperature range. This would allow you to use light gear, and really target any bottom features that might hold fish.