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I have used Berts ratchet rod holder in the track setup for dipsy setups and I like them better than traxtech, watch out for the black rubber guide getting pulled off if a youngster grabs the rod out of the holder with a fish on, it can come off and wind up in the drink. It is important to check fittings - dipsy rigs put a lot of strain and vibration on everything! I have heard people say that after a few years, even the Bert's holder will start to show the wear and tear that a Dipsy rig hands out.

Tim, thanks got em ordered! I also used the small pro-troll flashers with peanuts & spoons without much results, we got very few browns off riggers on Cayuga in shallow spring water, but at Oswego we got them all that way. We have 3 riggers in the Islander, so we should be able to search a little better behind the boat, then a pair of sd rigs and stix off the dual boards and we should be in the brown business! Fat Nancy's won't have those NBK copper cup stingers till "Spring", hopefully I will remember to get some. I did get some copper cup side spoons from Warrior in the small scorpion size.

Tim, on those dodgers are you talking about Luhr Jenson 4"/000 ?

I was leaning the same way in the line department - especially watching the bend in the sd rigs, they seem to torque over as much if not more than a mag dipsy! Thanks for the spoon tips, I am trying to put together a decent spoon selection this winter because it's tough to grow and harvest all that deer food, fish ,and procure tackle at the same time.

Guys, you need to understand my situation. I hunt 600 acres of crop land that is surrounded by forest - get the picture? 2 deer/bow stamp, 3 deer regular season(7M) x 2 hunters (oldest son + myself) = 10 deer. We also wind up filling other peoples DMPs, which is completely legal. It is nothing here to see 7-12 deer in one place. We grow a lot of cow feed and deer like it and grow well on it so we make the best of it and eat a lot of venison. I have 1 large freezer for venison alone. We feed the deer and they feed us, it is not a typical situation but if you look at the whole picture it makes perfect sense.

Yesterday I brought 10 shoulders and 10 hind quarters over to the guy who makes the awesome sausages- it's important to maintain inventories! Back to the diver setups, got a question; the original dipsy setups I put together last spring I used 14# Fireline Crystal, after I started using wire I just left these in the garage until I started using them to mess around with the slide divers in the fall, question is should I use something else for line, that Crystal seems to stick out like a sore thumb to me and I do have a bunch of dark green Power Pro and Spider wire left over from making up lead core rigs? Also, who makes those copper back side spoons you had on Dapper Dan and where do you get them?

Does anybody use a superbraid slide diver (set on 2 or3) rig with a long lead behind the sd to target browns in the spring. We tried this setup for rainbows on the Fingers in the fall without much success but we only used it once, it took me most of an hour just to get the lite bite feature to keep from tripping.

Stan, have you used big boards at all? Hey, I like the pix, the fish are gorgeous!

If you want to target different depths simultaneously core can be a good tool, but if you do not currently use wire dipsy rigs you should probably set up one or two, this will give you an awesome laker spread. Search this forum for advice on wire dipsy setups and I can probably fill in any gaps, if you troll for Lakers you want to be running at least one of these setups!

Now I know I am tired of skinning deer! Looks like you guys were on the east side around Atwaters maybe. Thanks for the pix, and I was gonna throw in the mothballs and disconnect the battery leads but maybe not!

Typically the factory 800 number is the way to go, they generally give you a repair authorization number and you pay shipping to the service center and back, often this adds up to $30, then you wait about 2 months+ and you get either a new one or a rebuild. This way if the item is under $100, they figure a lot of people will just get another one so they can get back to business- you were very lucky that the retailer handled the claim! It seems to me like I either buy the top of the line unit( which I don't do yet) or multiples of middle range units, that way you have spares and can actually afford to wait for warranty claims, plus it makes me happy to see all those rod & reel combos hanging on the wall while I skin deer.

Welcome to the LOU, tremendous amount of info & helpful people here. I started trolling last spring and I would never have learned as much without this site. Although it can take a little time to get used to using "search" it can really speed you thru a lot of preliminary questions- Good Luck!

A dipsy gives a very different presentation of the same bait at the same depth as a rigger setup. Another factor is that a dipsy rig is often presenting a bait off to the side and further back than a rigger so there is a stealth issue in addition to the action and sonic signature differences.

Stan, with these lower gas prices I might hitch my 16' behind the jeep and give those awesome looking lakes a try, nice pix!

Getting tired of warm afternoons in the tree stand, anyone try Cayuga recently?

search posts, lots here on leadcore setups.

We need to find an effective way for as many anglers and industry people as possible to see this asap. Did you post this on GLA? It should be posted as a sticky on most of the forums!

We had more or less the same results with a similar approach. This our first year at this and I am wondering if a planer board bite will return here shortly or will the fish scatter further, making it tough to get much going?

Do most people remove gps/depth raider, etc monitors on a boat that is shed stored in a secure situation?

We went over on Sunday worked T-falls to the South end, riggers 20-50, 4&6 colors, wire slidediver 100-150', and reg wire dipsy 140-210. A pretty day w/ out many legal fish, though we did get a 32" Laker off a rigger rod that my 11 year had quite a time with, for a laker this fish really had some fight in it! From Bolton point to the Yacht club we ran a flatline/stix combo off a board and it would only stay out long enough to grab one 10-12" salmon after another. The weeds got terrible down there and we quit. I wish we had tried the surface presentation earlier, but maybe it would not have attracted anything of any size, we really did not see many good marks even in and around bait pods, which made me slightly suspicious that some fish are up high. Has anybody tried flatlines much?This is my first season with this so I don't have a sense of how stong a bite comes back after the water cools off, what typically happens?

Anybody on Cayuga today, Sat 10/11, what were the temps? Is a surface approach worth it yet? Gonna try to get over tomorrow, wondering what's working and where?

Huntfrisco,on Sunday 10/5 the weeds were worst in the middle @ the drop off. On Tues 10/7 the weeds were rough behind any point, where the wave action dropped off. It really did seem like the depth range you mentioned was the best for keeping lines clean but I am not so sure that it is the most productive. Stay away from the weed mat around just off Treman it's full of dinks hiding from real fish. Maybe it would work to jig down thru that. My south end program leaves a lot to be desired at this point, let me know what works for you, I will be out on Sunday but not till 11:00 or so

I was able to get a bunch of lakers on the flasher/fly in the south end but only by literally running the wire thru them right on the bottom.

For what it's worth I got talking to a guy at the bow shop this am and he say's he uses bow string wax on his planer line ( of course he's probably just trying to move more product,right Ray?)

Does the first rod out(line closest to the board) go in the rod holder closest to the bow, angled mostly up, and the last rod out in the stern most rod holder angled mostly down? I have seen drawings different ways. Also don't the leads need to get shorter or at least stay the same as you put lines out, otherwise how can you get a fish over the other lines? For instance, say I want to incorporate a couple of leadcore lines on each side; don't the longer cores need to be further out?