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If I get over to the lake at 12 or so will I be able to get in at T-Falls? I heard the bubbler was not working yesterday- were people able to get on the water eventually without it? Any info would be helpful!

My hopes have been shattered! Am I going to have to stick around on Sunday and pretend to be a hard working farmer, or worse, chip away at a bathroom renovation project? Whats up w/ the bubbler @ T-Falls?

Can any body dig up Billy V's tips on setting up tackle for these aspiring Brown trout guy's, real detail in that old post, too long to try to encapsulate but real nuts and bolts stuff.

RR, can we get out of Meyers or is it still iced in? Anybody know about North Point?

Dave, explain the 3 rivers flow picture/ concept again, I can't remember what the deal is- Thanks!

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I'm charging up the batteries and putting the toys back in the 16' today- might be out there Sat or Sun if the planets align and the weather is a go! What's the earliest N. Point or Meyers will open?( a lot longer for me to go around the bottom and up to T-Falls)

What length leader do you use on the little dipsy divers if you are using colored ones ( I usually use black Walkers)- Thanks

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If Cohos are part of the mix this spring I would like to be able to have some presentations in the water that they want (hoping to be out the in early May) . My sense was that typically they are higher in the water column and prefer smaller baits than the Kings, like peanut or coho flies on short leaders behind the small orange/red flashers. Could somebody familiar w/ these or other setups give me some basic flasher/fly combos, including some leader lengths and other bait suggestions along w/ some starting point depth guide lines. -Thanks

Stinger, I got a bunch of rainbows like that ice fishing on Owasco didn't know they were in Cayuga too! Hey, any speed info for today? I guess I am gonna get out the displays and get the 16' ready for action, she should have no problem at T-Falls. RR, surface temps must be too cold for a planer bite?

Any one going out w/ boards on Cayuga? I am guessing the only place you can launch is T-Falls, don't know how much longer I can wait!

Go to the Howie Fly website, 1000' spools of 30# wire. The Okuma Blue Diamond rods (8'6")paired w/ Daiwa 47 accudepth line counter reels will make a nice pair( Lake Michigan Angler website), you can always get the drags souped up later if you want w/ Penn components. The Walker Mag Dipsy divers are a good choice.You might want to consider biting the bullet and going w/ a track system for the rod holders, then you have flexibility down the road(Bert's or Traxtech).You can search this forum for other posts on wire dipsy rigs.

I would like to be able to run flashers or spoons on my copper lines(have been only running spoons)Will it work out ok to just snap the small 30# Sampo I use for spoons onto the big coast lock that goes to the flasher?

While I was grocery shopping I picked up a pair of Ugly stik BWD 1100 7' at Wally World for $31.00 apiece, seems like a heck of a rod for the money, hopefully they will work out ok.

Which down rigger snap model release do you like, the 18', 30", or the 48", I might get a couple reg. and couple mini, recommendations? -Thanks

Suggestions for a good (but not pricey) 7' med. rod to put my 600 and 300 copper on?

It seems to me like lead core w/ a flasher kinda "floats up", especially the fatter 27lb, a couple times last year I went over a hump, that made the dipsies dig & trip and the flies were dragging zebras, but the 10 color fly, which should have been running deeper than the dipsies, had nothing on it. What's up with that, is it related to using boards, or does lead stop dropping at the same rate after a bunch of it is out w/ flasher on it?

Thanks for all the responses, I got a couple questions: Scotty users; 1. which model(s) are you guys using, the power grip cable, power grip ball, or the "mini" version of the former two?2. How many of you use the Scotty a fair amount for trout ? 3. How much variation in tension can you achieve, or in other words will it be easy for someone who doesn't know the release to find a spot on the pad that will allow me to crank down, but still trip for the dinks (or do you just watch for the pulse of a skipper and concentrate more on getting it deep in the pad so you can load the rod) Chamberlain users; 1. How many of you have used this release a fair amount for Kings?How long does it take to learn how to make both adjustments?

The parts are interchangeable. In my humble opinion the Berts rigger swivel is a little bit easier to use when you are fighting a fish or doing something else and need to swing a rigger with one hand because the locking arm sticks out instead of having to reach under and pull down on the Traxtech swivel lock knob, but this is minor. They both seem to make good stuff.

Ok, I went to a GLA salmon seminar and now I feel like I should give up on my Off Shore pinch pad type releases and go with the Walkers or the Blacks (at least for chasing kings)? Last year was my first year trolling and most of the fish we got on riggers were in the FLX not Ontario and we often ran our riggers shallow 30'-60'. I didn't think we had very many rigger trips w/ out anybody home but there must be some reason people who chase Kings don't seem to use the pinch pad type release, I am thinking you can't load the rod up and get the belly out of the line as easily w/ the pinch pad type because it trips too easily and by the same token will not have the resistance needed for setting the hook into a really aggressive fish? On the other hand if I am fishing the FLX a fair amount maybe I want to use the Off Shore releases there so I don't drag skippers up & down the lake?

Don't forget to heed Ray's advice and go w/ the heavy test super braid, if you go w/ lighter stuff the fleas will crash your party.

We have a little 19' Islander so the state park should be ok, I am thinking I would be better off getting up there before the tourny but it's probably pretty good traffic around the bar no matter what else is going on in the spring isn't it? I have heard from a couple of people I should launch and head north into Canada, do a lot of U.S. boats fish in Canadian water? If so what's involved in getting a license?

Stan,I have run those lil dipsies on my planer rods (8' med.light) get the Walkers (they trip, the lil L. Jensons don't) I think that's a better idea because the SD rigs I put together are kinda heavy duty . If you don't have fleas, super braid is probably gonna get you to depth and give you a better grab rate, but then you need a stretch of mono out in front of the diver, don't know about that fish's mouth - if you would need more shock absorber? Too bad it's so far, I would kinda like to experiment on them myself, sounds like a lot more fun than plowing snow again today! - Andy