Sk8man

I'm not sure about the Craig's List Policy is but last I knew air rifles are not considered firearms in NYS.

Mike you probably bought some when they first came out in the 1800's and Mike C must have driven you there in a horse and buggy

Gill-T yes the flutters are similar to Sutton's in weight. He gives all the dimensions and thicknesses on the website. My grandfather used to use them along with Suttons's and the old Geneva and GT spoons on Seneca around 1910 or so.

Elmer Hinckley spoons have been around for over a hundred years. They originated in Naples New York at the south end of Canandaigua Lake and were used along with Sutton's historically right until the present. A fellow by the name of Pete D'Urso from downstate New York fairly recently acquired the company and has "revitalized" these classic spoons and they have been successfully used in various places from local lakes, reserviors and the Great Lakes. His website is something to behold regardless of whether spoons are purchased or not. https://elmerhinckley.com/

Luckily, I have a few of the older versions that are now collectors pieces. These new versions from the old dies look great. Pete is one our own LOU guys by the way.

It is unfortunate the way it is being held. It would be very helpful to see the adipose fin and tail. The head structure looks like Atlantic, The lack of significant spotting below the lateral line also looks that way as well as lack of significant spotting on lower gill plate. It is difficult to tell the exact eye alignment with the end of the jaw because of the way it is being held and likewise for the thickness of the peduncle. Based on the image I would guess Atlantic as well. The only sure way to tell is examining the inside of the roof area of the mouth for the vomarine teeth structure.

Cool idea Andy. Thanks.

I'm trying to figure out what that black box is with all the wires coming from it

Good one Bill  My dad also put together a Heathkit flasher for me from components although I no longer have the graph I kept the flasher for sentimental reasons.

I had the graph paper recorder around then that had just come out.  It was HeathKit company. Emphasis on kit. They sent the parts and you assembled it. Luckily my dad was an electronics technician because there were about a thousand plus parts  when I received it and the circuit board had to be soldered for every transistor etc. (hundreds of them). I almost died when I opened the box and saw all the parts. My dad said let me take it home and see what I can do. A couple weeks later he brought it to my house and the next day I called in sick to work and went out on Seneca and tried out. Worked flawlessly.... I was amazed and very happy. I had it for several years. Heathkit components were of good quality.

Pretty incredible season. My favorite pics were the family and kid pics.....that is where the true excitement exists

41 minutes ago, whaler1 said:

Reminds me of a scene from Scarface

Fun just getting out there....nice healthy looking fish too. Hoping for ice fishing here. this season but looking iffy at the moment

Sure

Ditto on the welcome back.

No sir necessary I was only a Sgt.

Best of luck looks like every hunters dream

Yeah Stan I was out there today just looking around and the place is loaded with campers in the former overflow area and even in newer areas and there are a lot more cabins as well Looks to be very busy there this year. Thank God they paved the road coming in it used to severely threaten bearings and axels coming in there.

John Mann is the best around and reasonably priced. He has done about every boat imaginable, uses quality materials, and can help you avoid potential problems with his ideas. Best of all he is right up the road from you at Sodus Point

Sounds like a plan worth a try Pete.

Although trolling plates work for a while Pete no matter which you use they do weaken and wear out. I had both the happy Troller and another one that had springs on each side of the plate on my previous boat. They both wore out although in different spots due to the constant use. The spring type allowed you to accelerate without releasing the plate by hand. They ended up wearing out where they hooked to the plate. I finally took  them off and  just lived with the slight difference in trolling speed and never looked back until I bought my first kicker and that was definitely the best solution possible and added the safety factor, It is one thing in life that is well worth the investment. I guess you can remember the kill switch fiasco the time you were out on my boat. We at least had the option of continuing to fish. I'd never be without a kicker again. The larger motors will troll but many don't like it and most load up the plugs after a relatively short time. I only use my 135 Opti when is is real windy and going against the wind despite the fact that it can troll down to 1.8 mph; otherwise only for running back and forth way above trolling speed.

Yes in additional to the sole scumbags the cartels are now involved because it is so lucrative and the chances of getting caught are much reduced from the drug trafficing so they have added this to their sucker list

AG you have a personal message.

I Think HB2 makes some good points. We may need to be more accepting of the attempt to make a more diverse fishery. There are some known impediments as well as the unknowns though. One of the major obstacles for the Atlantics long term has been the lack of access to the traditional spawning environments on the south side of the lake (damming of streams, poor water quality and lack of food sources in streams for the young etc.) as well as the thiamine deficiency. The Atlantics won't be feeding heavily on the Round Goby (or sculpin for that matter) as other fish like lakers, browns, bass and others as they are not traditionally bottom feeders and normally populate the upper stratified areas of the water. Populations of the other potential food sources like Cisco, Shad, and others may not be of suitable levels or may not be accessible to them for various reasons. I  have wondered for years whether Atlantics access the Atlantic ocean while maturing via the St. Lawrence and Hudson and then have trouble getting back to Lake O streams or imprinting doesn't occur properly  and they go other places to drop their eggs. I know it sounds a bit far fetched but I have never seen the issue addressed anywhere It is always assumed that the poor "survival" rate reflects mortality when it possible is that they have left the area.