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TyeeTanic

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  1. I don't use down riggers.ni only use dipseys which are far from the boat. This is definitely a phenomenon happening under the boat. [ Post made via BlackBerry ]
  2. Okay, I have seen two strange things on my fish finder - does anyone know what these might be?? 1) A long thick line - around the 20 to 30 foot depth, and is around 10 feet thick, running for a long stretch, about 1 to 1.5 screen lengths, probably 100 feet long. Is this the thermocline or a fish swimming under my boat? 2) A very straight diagonal arrangement of dots - starting high then going lower as you move from left to right across the screen. It is extremely straight, just on a diaganal. Thanks, Mark
  3. Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name: Pirate's Cove ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s): July 2, 2011 Time on Water: 7 - 11 am. Weather/Temp: some clouds, calm Wind Speed/Direction: South Waves: 0.5 m or less Surface Temp: 69F Location: Bronte, Hamilton LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 2 Total Boated: Species Breakdown: 0 Hot Lure: Dartee Blue, Syclops Blue Trolling Speed: 3 mph Down Speed: Boat Depth: 120 ft Lure Depth: 20 ft ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== I had a crazy fishing day, in a bad sense. With the new moon, and slight overcast this morning, I thought the fish would bite like crazy. We spotted a lot of fish at the 20 - 30 ft depth, and some large ones at the bottom at 110 ft. We only had two bites all day. Holy smokes, what the heck is going on - the fish just didn't want to bite today.
  4. The fly was a green with some blue. The lure was green with a silver christmas tree in the middle. The 20 lb is Floro. I am now using 40 lb Floro. Yes, I think the drag was too tight as well. Now I set the drag to just keep it from turning under trolling drag. I can't lose the dipsey's. I don't have down riggers and don't want to put them on my boat (it is a bow rider ski boat). I have a snubber to take on some of the shock from a big bite. It is suprising that even with the snubber it still snapped the 20 lb lead - they must have been big fish.
  5. I don't know about you guys - but on the north shore, all the fish were sitting high in the water today (July 1). They were all at 30 ft of water and sometimes less, in almost consistently 130 total water depth. I couldn't believe how high they were, almost didn't use the dipsey's as it wasn't worth while. Well, actually didn't on two lines - put 3 oz weights on instead and put out enough string to make sure they were at the 40 ft depth, and got several hits with these. 2 biggies - I figure 20 to 30 lb fish, broke my connector line and lead (20lb floro). I was a little frustrated ....
  6. Okay, the real deal is much better than talking in theory. I had 20 lb connecting line between the dipsey snubber and the flasher and I had two big hits - lost the flasher and fly both times with snaps on the 20 lb line. So, after cursing a little ... I decided to go with 40 lb line between the two, but didn't get a major bite again after that. I figure you have to go with heavy duty tackle for the king - you can't waste your time with 20 lb connections - you have to go stronger and rely alot on the drag. We did land (and release) 2 steelhead, 1 coho and 1 atlantic. Hopefully tomorrow I will get another chance at a king with the 40 lb line. Mark
  7. Thanks Paul! What does a electronic down speed and temp cost? I already have a decent GPS fish finder, the Lowrance Elite 5 Gold, so I only need the down speed and temperature functionality. I am pulling the boat out of the water next Monday for a service, and this would be a great opportunity to install anything I need to add to the boat, provided it does not cost an arm and a leg. They can take the leg, but I need my arms for fishing...
  8. Good info Paul. So do you think us guys without a temperature probe can kind of rely on the government cross section maps. For instance cross section A of Lake Ontario is Toronto, which I'm close enough to. If I read this, it seems there is a vertical thermocline about 2 miles from shore and then it goes flat at around 4 miles in around the 60 - 70 ft mark. That is if we are looking at 55 'C to 60'C temperature band. It seems like the ministry publishes this data twice a day, and it would be easy enough to take a quick look on the phone internet before heading out.
  9. Hey Tim, Yes, appreciate I am a little green with the trolling, but have a good sense for the outdoors given the time I've put in and pick things up quickly. I just like asking a thousand questions to zero in on the best techniques. And I do very much appreciate your honest and informative responses! Anyhow, I have a higher res picture on my phone. The spots that you can obviously see in the picture are some scales that have come of the fish. It was wiggling hard to get out of my son's grip and I ask him to hold it firm to not drop it. The scales on the fish were very loose. I was told coho's are like that. There are some small black spots in the top grey part of the body above head and along back, and then on top part of the tail fin. Best regards, Mark
  10. Hey Tim, Thanks - actually I'm not that green - have been fishing for 20 years, just off the shores - I started trolling around 2 weeks ago, and have made out okay - have landed around 8 fish in 6 hours of fishing over the past week and a bit. I just like to ask a lot of questions to figure things out. I like trying new things (ideas and hardware). The real issue is you hear so many different recommendations about lures, leads, flies, etc. etc. and you don't know who is right. I like the fact that I can get some sort of consensus on this site. By asking all the questions I've figured out a lot about the tackle I need (which cost me around $500 or more all in this week), recommendations to good sites (I just registered to spoon pullers) and general know how. I still have to try out many suggestions and find out what works best for me - but I have the euipment and the knowledge to do that now on the wide open waters. Thanks to LOU in 2 weeks I've learned what it should have taken me years to figure out on my own. I appreciate everyone's helpful responses - and by the way - it is 10% for me, and 90% about putting a smile on my son's face by hooking up a fish and letting him take it on. That's him in the photo. Thought it was a Coho. Anyhow, fish was safely back in the water right after the pic was taken. That was his maiden fish - and a good fight too!! Mark
  11. Paul - you must think we are real newbies here! The major thing I'm worried about is bottom dragging and snagging up on something. Once you hit a solid snag, the drag won't help you any, you have no choice but to break the line. Would rather lose less tackle than more...
  12. Holy smokes - just checked out that link carpedium. That is awsome info - does it actually work?? The thermocline is sitting in the yellow band which looks like around 60 - 90 ft of water, depending on how far from shore you are. Does this make sense??
  13. I found a submersible thermometer at LeBaron. Need to hook it up to a jig and drop it down. Leave it for 30 secs - 1 min and then bring it back up to test the water. Cost around $10, so not too bad. I might try it this weekend in 150 ft of water at 2 or 3 depths (50, 70, 90 ft) to get an idea of where the thermocline is. Will let you know how it works. Watch this space.
  14. Hello all, With 4 rods in the water, and one of them with a fish on, is it advisable to keep trolling or do I have to wind everything in??? I tried trolling the other day while reeling in a fish and the fish went behind the boat. Ended up cutting the lead on the prop - so I figured it's better to just stop the engine and reel in the other rods - however at the time I only had 2 rods in the water. Now with 4 rods (got some new rod holders), it will be a mission to have to pull all the other lines out of the water. What's the trick - do I keep trolling and move the rod with a fish on to the front of the boat?
  15. I just read the articles in the links above - and figured out there what down speed is. I generally troll around 2.5 mph - 3.1 mph, but that is essentially the idle on my motor. Guys say to troll slower down to 2.0 mph - but I won't be able to do that, not on my boat.
  16. That helps a lot - after reading my post again - I found I made a mistake - if you use a snubber it must come between the dipsey and the flasher or you mess everything up. Okay - so essentially I use the same set up with flashers, where I go 30 lb wire, dipsey, snubber, 20 lb lead. I connect this to the lure or the flasher/fly arrangement. If the line breaks I lose the lure or the flasher/fly which costs me $20 max. That's not too bad. Thanks guys!
  17. What is down speed?? How does it different from trolling speed?
  18. Very funny carpedium! The mono lead isn't the problem, it is actually in the wrong place to snap - I lose the dodger and the fly if this happens. I would rather have the line break just ahead of the fly so this is all I lose. So, am I talking crazy - or do I have a point here and connect up 6" of 20 lb lead line between the dodger and the fly lead line?
  19. Hello all, I have the following from reel to lure: - 30 lb Stainless Wire Main Line - ball bearing swivel connector to Dipsey Diver - swivel quick connect to 5 ft of 50 lb mono - swivel quick connect to Spin Doctor - connect to snubber chord 8" long - swivel quick connect to 30" 50 lb floro lead directly attachement to fly (purchased like this). My problem is if something is going to break, it will be the wire and I lose everything - Dipsey, Spin Doctor, Snubber and Fly + Leads/Swivels - all amount to almost $50 worth of tackle. I am thinking of putting in a 20 lb floro sacrificial line maybe 6 " long between the Snubber and the Fly. This way if anything breaks it will be the 20 lb floro and the most I lose is the Fly which will cost me $8. Big difference. Any recommendations??
  20. Sorry! Didn't mean to hijack the page. My fault. Was in and out of too many topics and didn't realize what I was doing. If anyone has a response to the thermocline issue please visit my topic on Finding the Thermocline. Thanks. Sorry again. [ Post made via BlackBerry ]
  21. Thanks chowder, I am on the west end of lake Ontario. I fish off Oakville - Bronte Harbor. Sometimes I head east to Port Credit, but no more than that. I haven't tried Hamilton Harbor yet, but may give it a go this weekend.
  22. Just picked up 4 of these guys and 2 spin doctors. Thanks for the advice.
  23. Coincidently, I just bought spoons 1, 5, 6 and 7 on a good friend's advice. I also got a colour called Monkey Puke - awsome name, eh?
  24. Yup - thanks guys - I'll try the 80 - 120 ft depth. Just bought myself some new Spin Doctors and flies - will try those out at 80 ft this weekend. Will also try some red and blue spoons at 60 - 100 ft. My boat is a tad small (20 footer), so I figure I can get 3 lines in the water without tangling everything up, so will set up for 60 ft, 80 ft and 100 ft depths. Have a good one guys - and remember fishing is like enticing someone into having fun loving. You spend a lot of time and money trying to get some action, and then one day you finally hook up with a beauty for a quick grind, which makes it all worthwhile...
  25. Hey Bluewater - what would you say we need to take off the dipsey charts if we are using steel or copper line. Should I cut 10 - 20% back off what the chart recommends?
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