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Yup - thanks guys - I'll try the 80 - 120 ft depth. Just bought myself some new Spin Doctors and flies - will try those out at 80 ft this weekend. Will also try some red and blue spoons at 60 - 100 ft. My boat is a tad small (20 footer), so I figure I can get 3 lines in the water without tangling everything up, so will set up for 60 ft, 80 ft and 100 ft depths. Have a good one guys - and remember fishing is like enticing someone into having fun loving. You spend a lot of time and money trying to get some action, and then one day you finally hook up with a beauty for a quick grind, which makes it all worthwhile...

Hey Bluewater - what would you say we need to take off the dipsey charts if we are using steel or copper line. Should I cut 10 - 20% back off what the chart recommends?

Guys - I can't measure the horizontal thermocline - don't have the rig. Am I dead fishing for kings - or is there another old fisherman's trick I can use - other than looking for where everyone else is fishing??? Thanks.

Thanks Carpedium. What size/make spoons do you use. I am using the dartee no 2. It's shaped like a fish and kind of kicks side to side. That lure has helped me hit a lot of coho and steelhead, but no luck with chinooks. Are the little cleos any good?

Okay, I'm not that good with the lingo. When you say reds and pinks - are you talking spoons??

I've been using spoons for trolling, but I hear of a lot of people catching with flies. What kind of flies are good - surely not the same as what we would use in the rivers right???? How deep do you troll with them??? Tight lines guys and gals, tight lines!!!!!

You are definitely not too deep - in fact if it is a sunny day I would say you need to be slightly deeper. You could try changing to a lure that works well at 3 mph - I use a Williams Dartee No 2 and get a lot of bites at 3 mph. Try the blue or green spoons. Mark

Gentlemen, and ladies! I have been catching Coho's and Steelhead with ease, but no luck with Chinook. Am trolling 3 mph in 130 ft total water, at around 40 - 80 feet lure depth. I use spoons like the Williams Dartee 2 or Syclops - blue, red, green. What am I doing wrong???? Mark

By the way, if it helps I got the Eagle Claw Starfire Downrigger Rod with Roller Guides - I think the model is the SF404, made by Wrigth and McGill Co.

Ya skipper, it happened once to me today and that is why I lost one fish I hit. The line pinched in the side of the roller and mount on the top guide (smallest one). Was a little pissed about that. Question about feeding the line through the rollers. My first guide, the one closest to the reel, has two rollers one against the rod and the other on the top point of the guide. How do I fish the line through? Do I just go loosely between the two rollers, or do I go over under (kind of like feed through two pulleys) so the line is straightened out before it goes back to the reel??? I have mine just going between the two guides, but it is kind of loose in there and the rollers don't seem to be doing much, unless it's for when a fish is on???!?! Thanks, Mark

Okay - I went out and go wire yesterday, and then found out none of my loops were good for wire on my rod, so had to buy 2 new rods!!! I got 8 1/2 foot rods, heavy action, with stainless rollers. Nice rods, but ended up spending much more than I wanted to. The braid is on my existing rods, will use for jigging or an extra set of rods when another fisherman is onboard. I took them out today for a try - it's a nice setup - I really enjoyed using them. Got 2 Coho's with 4 hits.

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name: Pirate's Cove ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s): 24 June 2011 Time on Water: 06h00 - 12h00 Weather/Temp: 64F Wind Speed/Direction: Light west Waves: 0.5 m Surface Temp: 75F Location: Bronte and Port Credit LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 4 Total Boated: 2 Species Breakdown: Coho Salmon Hot Lure: Dartee, Syclops Trolling Speed: 3 mph Down Speed: Boat Depth: 100 - 130 ft Lure Depth: 60 ft ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ====================

Oh - is the wire diameter about the same as the braid or thinner? I'm trying to figure out how much will fit on my new reels.

Fleas ... why doesn't anybody in the shops tell me this stuff before I spend $80 on braided line????? How long do I have before I need to change out my NEW braided line??

Yes, thanks. I don't have downriggers as I use dipsey divers. However, I was thinking of getting a temp probe and putting a 5 oz weight on it to get it down. I supposed if I test for the horizontal thermocline in 150 ft of water, I should get a good idea of where it is sitting. Anyhow, is it worth it going to this extent, or do you kind of figure out where it is by looking for fish on the screen?

Doesn't the wire ruin the reel??? Any plastic parts will be gone in no time - right?

Hello All!!! I have a Lowrance Elite 5 Gold Fishfinder and GPS. It records temperature - but where in the water column?!?!? Is it surface water temperature. I don't think it can give me a temperature indication through the column, can it?? If not, can I still use it to figure out where the thermocline is, or am I guessing???? What is the cheapest and easiest way to figure this out?? Thanks!

Hey guys (and gals), I am currently using 40 lb power pro braid - and love it. But, I only started this season. I have heard a few people say that when the fleas come out, braid is useless - what the heck is everyone talking about - why does it become useless???? Also, when people say I should use wire - are you literally talking about steel wire??? I saw some spools of steel wire at LeBaron yesterday - it was a light gauge - but can you actually fish with something that stiff????? Finally - what are the real advantages of wire over braid, and vice-versa??? Thanks, Mark

Oh, by the way - I forgot to mention Canadian Tire has the 8ft Rapala rod and reel (w/ counters) combos on special right now - they are normally $100 and now marked down to $50 or so - which is why I took two!!

Okay - well you guys just cost me more money!! Haha, not too much. I ended up buying 2 Rapala Magnum 2 Dipsey Trolling Rods 8 ft, Medium to Heavy Action. The rods came with some heavy duty Rapala baitcast reels with built in counters and plastic line on it. The plastic line will need to come off. Now I have to take all my braid off my Abu Garcia's and put them onto the Rapala's before fishing tomorrow morning. I want to put 12 lb floro on the Abu's and keep that rod set for bass fishing or something. I run a small power boat 20 foot Tahoe, so the most I'm comfortable with is putting 3 lines in the water. I like the fact that I can push my two side lines out with the swivel on the dipsey - cool concept!! I honestly can't wait for tomorrow morning - I'm trusting there will be some good action on the North Shore!!! Have fun guys, tight lines...

I tried a size 1 and size 3 dipsey diver for the first time tonight - hooked into a steelhead within 10 mins of trolling at 60 - 70 ft. Anyhow, I could not believe the force the dipsey diver was putting on my rods!!! My medium action 6 foot rods were almost a full circle!!! One of my rods fibreglass actually started splitting at the top (thin) lenght. I have 40lb braid as a backing line on abu garcia reels, and 20lb floro as a lead. What the heck size and spec of rod would you recommend????

I use 40lb power pro braid. Main reason is my reel can only fit 300 yards of it, any larger test and I just get too little line on. I haven't lost a fish on the braid yet - but have to be honest, have not hooked into a mother bugger of a fish yet this year, all mine have been in the 10 - 15 lb range.

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name: Pirate's Cove ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s): June 23, 2011 Time on Water: 8 pm for 30 mins Weather/Temp: 64F Wind Speed/Direction: West, lite Waves: 0.5 m Surface Temp: 75F Location: Bronte LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 1 Total Boated: 1 Species Breakdown: Steelhead Hot Lure: Williams Daree 2 Trolling Speed: 3 mph Down Speed: Boat Depth: 130ft Lure Depth: 70ft ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ====================

I know this has been a topic in the past but does anyone have any recent experience with the Fish Seeker from a company I think called Davies? My wife will kill me if I install down riggers on our ski boat so I have no choice but to use oz's of lead or something like the fish seeker. Davies recommends that I troll at 2mph but I like to troll at 3 mph. The Davies rep said it shouldn't make much of a difference but I have read some customer feedback where they dlsaid they just couldn't get the Fish Seeker to go down deep enough. I'm going to give it a try this weekend and might use some lead on the backing line just above the fish seeker to keep it down. Anyhow just wanted to know if anyone has experience with this product or whether there is some other similar product out there which is better. Thanks. [ Post made via BlackBerry ]

Yea, but take the square meter surface area of lake Ontario and multiply it by 0.025 m (1 inch) and you will find this is A LOT of water volume. [ Post made via BlackBerry ]