TyeeTanic

Talora 600s?

I'm reacting to this: "Not sure why some CDNS are pissy about closed tribs because of the COVID situation and really don't care." Using COVID to close rivers is just stupid in my opinion, if on the other hand it's perfectly "ok" to have 500 people inside a Walmart grabbing from the same vegetable boxes. It's pure hypocrisy ... makes no sense, because you have probably 100x more risk catching COVID in the Walmart situation than on the shore of the Ganny. That is my point. Closing access to Ganny due to COVID, is just an excuse the Town is using because they don't want to enforce fishing and pollution rules in the town of Port Hope. So, I will write it down to laziness. "Don't care if 50% snaggers/netters/pitchforkers ruin it for the other 50% legal anglers." This is the I don't give a rats a$s comment ... let the good guys get punished, because we can't enforce the bad guys ... say goodbye to democracy and our rights with that kind of attitude ... welcome to the communist state!

I fish Ganaraska in April ... so unless you are saying I'm delusional ... I don't know how the heck you aren't going to tangle with a guy standing 6' beside you if you both have +12' poles ... it's insane to think you can fish with another guy fishing that close ... that I'm sure of ... I've been doing this for a couple of decades ... so take your COVID excuses for shutting down access to Ganny, and chuck them in the lake with your next down rigger weight. It's hypocrisy (or just an excuse) when it's okay to have hundreds of people in Walmart or Home Depot indoors with unsatisfactory HVAC systems to protect against COVID, but then it's not okay to be outside in the wide open next to a river. YOU brought up the stupid COVID excuse on behalf of Port Hope ... I'm just pointing out how stupid it is. As for the Ganny, I don't fish it in the fall ... I do fish other tribs ... but I take exception to your attitude to all river fishermen who fish ethically and do have a right to access the resource, just like boaters do. You think it's okay if you own a boat, suddenly you have exceptional and exclusive right to the resource?? Whatever ... I pay enough taxes to know, I have just as much rights as you do. So, take your dismissive attitude towards river fishermen and chuck that into the lake, with your next down rigger weight too!

I don't mind them closing Port Hope either. The COVID thing is just total hypocrisy though. It's okay to go into a McDonalds and stand 6 ft away from a person, but go forbid we fish outside in the open ... standing 20 ft from the next guy so lines don't get tangled ... yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me, not! fcboats ... seems you don't give a rats a$s about anything but your situation ... so let's leave it to that ...

Yankee, well, what is happening is what you stated in your second sentence. From the river mouth to a certain point, the rivers are fishable (legally). But north of a certain point on all rivers I know (I don't know them all, but a lot of them), it's declared fish sanctuary. No one can fish above that point legally. Some of the sanctuaries aren't that far from the lake, others are way up the tributary. Lately, the local towns have been prohibiting access to the rivers ... but that isn't from the Ministry of Resources. They are either concerned with COVID or they are concerned about the garbage left behind by anglers. So fishing isn't prohibited in the river, but fishing from the shore (the land the city owns) is prohibited. Still, there are many tributaries to fish in Canada. I get what you are saying about catching a salmon in a ditch ... but let's be fair here. Those staging fish are there to do one thing ... spawn. So why target them at all. I'd say if we are all going to be serious about closing the rivers to spawning salmon, then fishing them within say 1/2 mile of the river mouth should also be banned ... because whether a pissed off salmon takes your plug or not ... we all know a spawning salmon is being targeted.

Yankee, what do you mean Canada closes their tribs? I can go fishing on Bronte River right now if I want to. Ganaraska is only closed at Port Hope because the Town has put bi-laws in place due to COVID. Actually all they closed is access to the river from land ... I don't think they have jurisdiction to the river ... that is governed by the Province I believe. One thing I'd like to point out ... do you think it's okay for boaters to be fishing staging salmon? They are all congregated at the mouth of the rivers ... so how is that any more ethical than someone standing on the pier chucking spoons?

Those look great, and definitely seem obviously more functional than the old cylindrical design.

As others have pointed out, add drag to both sides of the boat. Sure you can use chutes, but I know guys in the past have spoken about putting in 5 gallon buckets with holes drilled through the bottom. That drag, on both sides, will help to keep the boat stabilized, not only going straight, but side to side rocking.

I'm not sure your comment on splitting hairs ... is that on the difference between depth and distance on a sonar? If it is ... that is incorrect ... as you go deeper, the discrepancy between true depth and what is displayed on the sonar becomes enormous, especially if you are running anything lower than a 12 lb downrigger weight. For instance ... on a 10 lb weight ... if you have 140 ft of cable out ... sonar might catch the weight and say you are 140 ft down ... but in fact, you're probably closer to 100 down. The blowback is enormous, and you aren't even close to 140 ft down. Now, if you are aiming to be 30 ft down ... sure, the difference between where the sonar says you are, and where you probably are is only like 5 ft.

I've had both. Twillie tip is REALLY easy to use, and I think better than the roller tip ... less chances of pigtails and kinks, plus storage is a lot easier on the line.

The blowback on anything less than 12 lbs is A LOT! I had a smart troll and measured it for 8 lb, 10 lb and 12 lb weights. Even with 12 lb you normally had to have about 20% more cable out to get to the desired depth. 10 lb was ridiculous ... 8 lb was impossible to get deep. As others point out, you should use the heaviest your downrigger and gunwale can support ... and hopefully that is at least 12 lbs.

Save your money, be patient ... get the Fishhawk.

It's easier to let the outside lines out first ... on setting 3 preferably, with longer rods (10 ft) ... after that inside rods on setting 1 with 8 ft poles. You also ideally want the inside rods to be deeper ... both in terms of dive slope (hence setting 1 on dipsey) and overall depth. The reasons are: (1) when you let a dipsey out, there's no "bite" in the water ... no drag, so it stays closer to the center of the boat and dives quicker. If you put the inside lines first, and then deploy the outside line quickly ... it will fall straight down behind the boat deep and then when you put the drag on, it will pull to the side and likely cross into the inside diver line. There's a way to avoid this ... and many guys do this when they get a hit on an outside line, and want to put that line back out again ... you just have to let it out REALLY slow, to make sure the outside dipsey has bite (drag) in the water, and stays high and out to the side .... it needs to have enough bite in the water to swing OVER and above the inside line. (2) when the lines are out ... as you know if a dipsey pops it goes towards the center of the boat and up in the water column. If the outside line was deeper than the inside line, it will almost definitely cross into the inside line. It is possible to get into these situations even if the inside line is at 1 and outside at 3, if you have little line out on the inside line ... meaning it is targeting shallower water. Rather the inside line should be getting you into deeper parts of the water (and it is more effective at doing so because dipsey is on setting 1) ... and this way, the outside line will normally pass right over the inside line if it takes a hit.

I'd say the captain has a duty to assess whether the situation is an emergency or not. You will not be able to fully assess any situation if your 500 ft from a boat and can't hear what the captain of the distressed vehicle is saying. What if they have been stranded for hours, and without water, with children onboard? What if they have no way to contact anyone? You may say, yes, they were unprepared ... but that don't meant too much, if it means people turn up dead ... it all just becomes a tragedy, and for the guy that looked away ... well he/she is responsible in part for that tragedy. God forbid if weather turns ugly all of a sudden 2 hours after you left them stranded! I'm not crapping on you, I get what you are saying ... but I think the other guy seemed to not even be interested in helping at all, or diagnosing the issue ... he just didn't want to waste 30 minutes of fishing, by the sounds of it. Not good! I would have taken a photo and posted it up for people to see who the douche bag is. In the least, lines should be pulled up, vessel should be safely approached, plan of action should be agreed on, and if the functional vehicle is not able to safely tow ... fine, but at least establish comms with tow, ensure coordinates are available, and technically stay with boat until help has arrived.

I would be getting off the lake in a real hurry if I saw that, even in a 30 ft boat.