TyeeTanic

Okay, some weekly feedback on my topics. I loaded Prime Times Lunar Calendars - it said fishing would be good today from 6:30 - 9:30. Sure enough we hooked into 13 fish during this time - after 9:30 it all went quiet. Then it said at about 2 pm it would pick up again, and at 10 mins to two we started getting bites with 17 lb and 19 lb kings in the order. I really do think this moon thing works.

So can I simply attach a 5 gallon bucket to my ski rope hook on the boat? Isn't there a danger that it gets stuck in the propeller? I have an IO engine.

So can I simply attach a 5 gallon bucket to my ski rope hook on the boat? Isn't there a danger that it gets stuck in the propeller? I have an IO engine.

Paul. I hear you and agree. I like using the temp for my initial setup in the morning and then pay attention to the graph. The other thing is I am not as experienced with the graph as you so the extra info on temp helps me a lot, at least for now. [ Post made via BlackBerry ]

RCO, Braid and wire both have thin diameters true, but the wire is obviously much heavier. There is about a 5 - 10% difference in depth between the wire and braid at deeper depths. So at the same line length there is hardly a difference in shallow depths but after about 50 feet you will get around 5 - 10% more depth with the wire. Also you generally can get to any depth up to around 90 ft on braid, just pull out more line - but wire can get you to the 100 - 110 ft depth, which is much more difficult for braid. So, if getting to 100 ft and lower is important - you do have this benefit with wire on the Mag 3 dipsey set at 0 with around 230 feet of wire out.

I think my setup is okay - I am getting hits from all kinds Kings, Coho, Atlantic, Steelhead, etc. The one thing I can't control is down speed - I don't have a rigger to test this, I use dipsey wire rods. Annyhow the other issue is my boat goes at the slowest 2.8 mph on the gps - I can't go any slower. This might be an issue, am somewhat worried about it, but I have a 20 ft ski and fish boat with a 4.3L IO Merc engine, and there's not too much I can do. There is an electric trolling motor but it's a bit of a pain to hook up. Do you think 2.8 mph is too fast and it is worthwhile for me to go to the electric trolling motor, or is this a good enough gps speed. I was told that in general down speed is 0.5 mph less, so that would make my downspeed around 2.3 mph.

I don't think it matters too much, but I have to admit I do have a 10 foot floro lead on my braid and wire rods. This is so I can connect direct to a lure if need be for shallow fishing - and I don't think the extra stealth hurts any.

I recently started a thread on this issue. I'm going to save you some time. Look at the fishhawk products, don't waste any money on anything else. You need a probe that can test the temperature while you are trolling. Fishhawk products measure the temperature and depth of water despite how much line you have out. If you have riggers it is best to get a product that fits to the rigger - so you have an exact temp at depth reading and continously - so you can adjust the depth as you are trolling to follow a temperature. If you don't have riggers buy the fishhawk TD - this is the way I went. Cost $140 plus taxes. Don't know where you are, I am in Ontario - found them at Radio World on Steeles and Hwy 400. This is the best money I have spent on fish gear. I now get out on the water, drop the probe while trolling (I put 1 lb weights on it to get it down) and then measure the temp. I adjust my lure depths to give me a full range of coverage in the 45 - 55F range - I put one on 45F, 50F and 55F. I place my last rod just above the 42F in case there are big kings around. I have been far more succesful with my fishing with this info. Before the fishhawk I was just guessing what to do. So, to answer your question, with first hand experience - this is the most important parameter. But let me warn you it is not the only important parameter, these are also important: - surface temperature - try and find areas above 65F, where the temp shoots up suddenly - moon phase - best time is when moon overhead and moon underfoot coincides with sunrise and sunset - cloud coverage - affects lure colors, and depths - winds - will tell you how scatterred the fish are - pressure - just before a dropping pressure is good fishing. In or after a rising pressure isn't really good fishing. I am still trying to figure it all out, but am developing a knowlege quickly, and once you know how to read these parameters, the advantage is that you get your boat to the right area of water more quickly, rather than spending most of the day in the wrong water.

I flew over Lake Ontario on Monday evening and saw some clearly formed boarders around large areas of water in the middle of the lake. Basically you had the middle (core water) encapsulated by a very slick (smooth) boarder. There were about 3 or 4 areas that had this complete boarder around them. It was a little choppy inside and outside of the boarder. Is this the cold water meeting up with the warm water and the boarder being a vertical thermocline??

Hey Shake n Bake, Do you have a link to the Prime Time calendar?

I use 2 rods on wire and 2 on braid - yes the braid is easier. I use the wire for 2 reasons - it helps get the line deeper, so I use SD and fly combos on the wires at 80 - 100 ft. This was very productive this past weekend in Bronte. I also use the wire to help with the fleas. They basically slide right off - they do get caught up in the swivels though - but I can take a knife to them and splice them off.

I hear the full moon on Friday night is the main culprit. Kings were feeding all night long with the moon light they had. Probably scattered the bait, and with the warm water the kings went into deeper water.

I know this has probably been discussed before, but how does the moon phase affect salmon fishing in Lake O? My mercurey calendar said this weekend would be great for fishing - I went 6/6 this Saturday but nothing to write home about. Met up with a fisherman on Sunday and he landed over 30 fish. He said Saturday was a bad day to fish because of the full moon on Friday night, causing the fish to feed all night, so nothing was all that interested on Sat morning. I'm sitting there shaking my head - everytime I get off the water, it seems there's another excuse for not being able to land more than 8 fish. Anyhow - if there is truth in this, when is the best moon phase for fishing in the morning and evening? Thanks.

I heard some fisherman talking yesterday morning on channel 69 - that is what the spoonpuller guys use. But must admit there wasn't much action on the radio waves.

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name: Pirate's Cove ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s): July 16, 2011 Time on Water: 7 AM - 2 PM Weather/Temp: Sunny, 27C Wind Speed/Direction: Southerlies, light Waves: less than 0.5m Surface Temp: 71F Location: Bronte to Hamilton LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 6 Total Boated: 6 Species Breakdown: Rainbow 2 lb - 10 lb, Chinook 3 lb - 17 lb Hot Lure: Williams Blue/Silver 3, Purple/Black 4, Pink/Light Blue Fly on flasher Trolling Speed: 3 mph Down Speed: ?? Boat Depth: 140 - 220 ft Lure Depth: 30, 40, 50, 90 ft ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Morning saw 3 hits between 7:30 - 9:30 and then dead quiet until about 11 am, saw another 3 hits up to 1 pm. Could not for the life of me find bait balls, marked only 2 at 220 ft of water. Trolled from 80 ft - 230 ft and spent most of the day looking for fish.

Just remember to lubricate the knot before you pull it tight. I normally just lick the uni-knot after I finished wrapping and am ready to pull tight. Especially if you are using 20 lb or less, if not you will knick the line and cause a weakness.

It's an older wood lure ...

Here is the wire knot originally posted by chowder. Thanks again! http://www.fishdoctorcharters.com/videos/video3F.html

Nail knot???? How the heck do they get that to work. I just check the knot animations and I don't understand how the steel line won't slip out of the knot, unless they are doing something different. Anyhow, I'm just going to use a micro-swivel that will go through the wire guides. I'll only pull it through when I'm putting the rod away and taking it back out, so extra care needed then to ensure the mono/floro lead does not get cut through the wire guides. I'm going to put on about 10 feet of 40lb floro as a lead tonight on the wire rods. Will use a uni knot for the floro to swivel and a wire knot posted previously to the swivel. If you want me to repost the wire knot, let me know, it is a great knot. I am also putting some 10 to 15 foot 40# floro leads on my braid line rods - will join either using a double uni knot or an albright not, will see which holds up better. Mark

The question is mainly about spoons, either after a dipsey or straight to the spoon.

When I troll shallow - say 15 to 20 ft, I use drop weights on my power pro braid setup. Basically I use a stainless 1/4" ring which has the following three lines connected via quick snap swivels: - main line connects to the swivel, - 3 ft lenght of line (use 20lb floro) to the drop weight 3 oz, or 5 oz. - 4 ft lead line (40lb floro) to the lure I'm concerned my lead line to the lure is too short, and want to go to much longer lengths. Basically with the existing setup I can get around a 8 foot lead to keep it at my rod length, maybe 10 feet if I walk to the front of the boat. If I want to go longer - I need to change my setup, but don't know how. I would need to attach the floro to the braid directly using an albright knot, but then what about my drop weight?? This would still need to go onto a ring and the furthest back I can put it from the lure is 10 ft again. So the question is, is it worthwhile to run say 15 feet floro lead to a ring which connects everything up as per the above and then use a 10 foot lead to the lure? Will the fish be sensitive to the ring, that it doesn't make it worthwhile to have the first 15 foot lead to the ring - or is it worth doing this???

I use clamp ons for my wire dipseys and they work great. I clamped two of them onto a grab handle on either side (inside) of the boat. The angle on them can be changed with a provided alan key. It holds pretty well to the handle, but I have to tighten every month or so - it's not a big deal takes 5 mins. Word of advice - I've heard many guys complain about clamp ons, and I 100% believe it is because they went cheap. I paid $110 for each of my clamp ons - got them at West Marine. Go to there website and put in product # 8674087. Here is the website link to the product as well, hope it works! http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... sNum=10800 Tight lines!

Hello everyone, I am using a quick connect ball bearing swivel to connect the lead to my lure, but am worried the fish are seeing all that jazz! I am catching fish with this setup, but wonder if I'll be more productive just tying the lead directly to the lure. So is a quick connect to the lure a good idea or should I tie directly to the lure?? Thanks!

Hey everyone. I am currently using 40# lead at 4 foot lengths. But have heard many people saying 20# is better for lure action and the lead needs to be way longer, like 15 ft. Would appreciate your advice, would like to try out tomorrow on the water, so please add a reply. I am also creating a poll to track the views of members over the week. Thanks!

I use a uni knot - hasn't failed me yet. See this link. http://www.netknots.com/html/uni_knot.html