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shaneo19

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  1. The wind/waves do like to have a north south flow to them. Not always but more often then you would think. Could be because they are carved out which funnels the wind.
  2. I feel like these same topics have been beaten to death on here but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. As someone who lives on and fishes Seneca almost every day I can pretty clearly see what the main problems are here. Lack of Lamprey control for a long number of years caused a big decline of the trout population. This in turn caused a big spike in the alewife population. This imbalance reverberates throughout the ecosystem. Alewives can be predatory to small fry of many different fish species. The amounts I see on the depth finder and that come near shore in spring are just out of control. If Keuka needs baitfish then just come net them from Seneca. I personally wouldn't because I don't think they are a great forage fish to have. I think the most obvious solution here is to control the lampreys (treatments last year were hopefully successful but takes years to see results) and increase fish stocking to control the alewife population.
  3. Do you have any link to this information? I have heard from multiple people that younger walleye are being caught and seen spawning in tributaries. I personally haven't fished it in quite a few years.
  4. I am not even sure which lake this post is referring too. Seems like Keuka since I have never heard any mention of Ciscos being considered on Seneca. Either way I do agree that DEC hasn't been doing a great job with managing the Finger Lakes.
  5. Nice report. The alewives are all over next to shore right now. Especially at night. If you shine a light in the water after dark I bet you will see hundreds if not thousands of them. I am very confident the problem with fishing on Seneca the past few years is a big predator/baitfish imbalance. Way to many alewives and too few trout. Best explanation for the cause of this imbalance is lampreys. Unfortunately the alewives are predators to recently hatched fish as well. Hopefully the lamprey treatments last year will turn it around soon. They may need to increase trout stocking for a few years to balance things out as well.
  6. https://www.fltimes.com/sports/naples-angler-waits-out-storm-catches-trout-derby-grand-prize/article_52fc6a85-e9ea-5ad9-8e27-51109372ae0f.html
  7. Another disappointing derby. Day 1 fishing was ok minus the waves. Days 2 and 3 were the worst fishing I have had in my 21 years of fishing the derby. I think I have an explanation for it. I believe there was an algae bloom that started after the heavy rains we had Saturday night. This is probably an active time for farms spreading fertilizer sadly. I was looking at the Hobart water quality buoy data http://fli-data.hws.edu/clarkpt/seneca/ and there was a clear spike in chlorophyll levels. Especially in the 30-60 ft range which is where I do most of my lake trout fishing. I think this either made the fish here non- active, they could't see the bait as well, or they left those depth ranges entirely. Lake trout fishing had been decent in the couple weeks leading up the derby. The brown trout collapse is the most worrying. There were barely enough to fill the leaderboard this year. 2.86lbs made the board. I had caught upwards of 50 brown trout just off the docks around my house by this time last year. Biggest maybe only 5 pounds or so. So far this year I have not even seen a brown trout. I have read they are the most susceptible to lamprey predation so that would have to be the number one suspect. I also did not see any small recently stocked brown trout swimming around the shore last spring like years past so I think they either were not stocked in my area (mid lake west side) or they didn't survive long after stocking. Hopefully the lamprey treatments done last year were successful. Unfortunately it will take a few years to know.
  8. I know its not illegal to kill lamprey. Using some kind of trap likely marked with a buoy could raise some issues if the DEC thought you were poaching something else.
  9. I am not sure how effective it could be but I actually like the live trap idea. Lampreys could get through very small holes that other fish could not. Or could make something like the cylindrical minnow traps you see only much larger. Or you may not even need a trap since they are willing to hold onto their prey even when pulled out of the water sometimes. I will have to look into if they only feed on live prey or if you could use a carcass of something. I live on the lake and know i would be willing to tend to such a thing on a regular basis if given permission. Definitely something ill have to think about.
  10. Definitely not good to see. If my memory is correct the lamprey treatments only kill the eggs/larvae so it might take some time to see if it worked. Lampreys have been my number one suspect for the fishing issues on Seneca. The more we can provide evidence like this to the DEC the better.
  11. They should net some alewives from Seneca to stock in Keuka. There are too many in Seneca right now which I think is having a big impact on the fish/fishing there for all species.
  12. What are you talking about? Did you read the article or know anything about this power plant? http://fingerlakes1.com/2018/11/02/greenidge-gets-green-light-as-well-as-controversial-5-year-extension/ . The fact that humans rely on energy really has nothing to do with this. Greenidge is not following the same regulations that other similar plants do in regards to filters to prevent killing fish and is discharging more warm water then it should since it does not have a closed loop system. Also dumping leachate from an ash landfill into the Keuka Outlet and then the lake. Hop is there anyway for you to change the title to perhaps draw more interest to the board? Maybe something like " Unchecked Environmental Regulations for Seneca Lake Power Plant, Greenidge". This seems like an important topic and if someone just sees "greenidge" they might not know what that is and not click on it. The sad part is I bet most people in the area including fisherman on the lake don't even know this plant exists.
  13. Good news and very good article. I do wonder why streams in Seneca and Ontario county aren't being treated. Perhaps because they are different DEC regions or there are no significant spawning streams elsewhere.
  14. The lake is definitely full of bullheads to the point of potentially being overpopulated. I said in another thread awhile ago that despite the issues on Seneca, there seem to be at least two species thriving. Sawbellies and Bullheads. Last spring we had the sawbelly kill and this year the bullheads. It is always concerning to see dead fish but it could just be nature trying to balance itself out. I wasn't aware that bullheads fought each other before spawning but that is interesting if true.
  15. Fished around 36 hours and ended with 21 lake trout and one brown. Biggest around 6 pounds 75 percent of the time pulling copper and 25 percent casting along the shore. Its definitely a struggle compared to what it use to be. Use to always near or break the 100 fish mark. There does seem to be quite a few lake trout in 80 ft plus on the bottom. Problem though is the fish deep seem to be all small so didn't spend much time out there. The good news is that all the 12 to 13 inchers we caught last year seem to have made it to 15 inches. There definitely seems to be an imbalance between predator and prey. Likely cause to me seems like lamprey killed many of the predator fish and the sawbellies took off with has implications throughout the food chain.
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