Matt mature deer and smaller. Real horns make a big difference! My success jumped dramatically when I began using real horns instead of a bag. It depends on the deer and stage of pre rut as to loud and aggressive or just tickling them together
I never start out bashing them together more of a tickling and pushing match if that doesn't work I'll ramp things up.
I really use it as a tactic when I see a good buck out of range,I've had them run in so quick I could barely set the horns down.
Its really a tricky situation with the bow you have to have the right set up,a bucks ears will pin point almost exactly where the sound is coming from,when his eyes don't reveal a buck fight he will use his nose and circle down wind 9 out of 10 times
This deer passed by through thick brush I grunted but was out of grunting range.Grabbed the horns and brought him right in.He stopped and thrashed a tree and
I shot him right before he was going to hit my wind as he circled my location