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  1. I'm sorry , I didn't notice you stated the end of August. Mexico is still and would be my first launch choice. As for depth , sonar and temp, nothing is hard fast and true but typically the fish are in a staging pattern Temps might not be so important unless you are going offshore in real deep water. Sonar is kind of the better indicator if your doing 80-120 fow. We usually see them stacked and very close to the bottom. Getting them to bite is the challenge because you will see tons of boats following the same depth , it sometimes gives them lock jaw . Changing lures, speed and trolling patterns seems to be more a key than anything . When we cant buy a bite but mark lots of fish in these situations , we head deeper and fish the thermocline . As stated above, the lake can get VERY ANGRY this time of year as hurricane season is near.. Good luck.
  2. my 1989 is 52 gallon. it was listed on the tag on tank
  3. I have a 22.5 foot hard top starcraft islander and have launched in all 3 locations. These are MY order of preference 1. Mexico state launch : the launch is top notch that can do 4 boats at a time with a holding dock for about 6 in the water. Plenty of parking and ease of use right at the break wall to the lake. Con: Its a big bay, we typically don't drop lines until 3-4 miles out. Sometimes we run 12 miles plus . Salmon river mouth is about 4 miles, Oswego about 6. It can be challenging in rough seas. Worst case, you fish upstream in the river (little salmon ) for bass , pike, gills, crappie and perch. Quite good fishing. 2. Pine Grove state launch : the launch is basically sandy but gradual . It will do 2 boats at once if people cooperate in backing in. It is located on the salmon river and the same opportunities for river fishing exist if being blown off the lake.. About a 10 minute putt to the break wall will put you about 1-2 miles into setting lines on the lake. Cons: it sometimes gets busy and crazy . It's very shallow and weedy at the launch. The 10 minute ride to the lake seems to take forever.. 3: lighthouse marina : It's right at the break wall to the lake. Quick access . Cons : I dislike this launch Last time I was there its single use. VERY steep and a drop at the end of ramp that you wonder if your getting out. Very little dock space to tie up. Good luck and catch a bunch Edit: Dans chicken shack right at intersection to mexico launch is awesome
  4. If this is happening it's a disgrace to the state of NY fish and game. I've had many friends and family involved in the ECO and every officer does a great service to our state environmental and game laws, state or private lands. Sadly I hope its not about $$$, Private sectors pay fines. A 30 million salary is nothing for the service they provide compared to the money the state spends on buying more land for nobody to oversee. as for the decline in hunting : It's kinda 2 fold. Younger kids 30 years ago lost interest in many ways. 2 working parents became normal, advancement in modern technology peaked kids interests.. Yes Some land was lost due to the ever increasing housing development but there is only so much space on this planet and people outnumber space in areas that were open.. Personally, I think there is a resurgence in hunting and fishing. The youth programs are great.. The state (bite my lip ) is providing more opportunities for these activities .
  5. L-13 Thanks for the contribution and insight passed along here as well . Getting a word in , is well , another voice heard if it's not on deaf ears . Your pal , HT Rich
  6. Personally , I think they are putting to many eggs in the basket for natural reproduction . It's only my opinion which means little in theirs Rich
  7. West is expensive , not that I didn't throw a bunch of $$$ and tackle into the east . It's a 3.5 hr drive after I leave work ion a Friday in Albany , NY to get to Mexico . Not sure if I could stay awake driving further I don't disagree , just kinda not logical to drive past sodus ($$$) for me
  8. Not having a dedicated crew this year and possibly in the future really put crimp in my season . I caught more Fish of the dock last week then out on the lake all season , a few bass, 3 pike , bunch of dink perch and a walleye of all things . I truly enjoy the area as I have for about 40 years but the lake is really kicked my azz this year . If I do return , I will be bringing my 14' Jon boat and really focus once again on the warm water species as well as joining the atv club so the lake fishing would be secondary . Good luck out there Phil and maybe see you on the mighty muddy Hudson in the spring Rich
  9. I'm done .. Pulled boat outta Mexico last weds after a totally frustrating season , only one mature salmon caught in 28 days on the water from June - sept . Even last year was far better for me 10 fold then this season . Seriously having deep thoughts about not coming back as a seasonal dock but I hate to see the boat just sit idle in the driveway after our striped bass depart back to the sea . I don't know , some hard decisions will have to be made over the winter . As for such , I'm currently getting my game face on for hunting and ice fishing . At least they never let me down Rich
  10. Along with filling the transom , you are raising the bow and losing steering control of the craft . My boat would take off like an airplane and I had worries about control . It was dangerous
  11. I had a long shaft motor on a short transom once . Very dangerous and unstable . Your motor should be sized to your transom
  12. Weathers to warm to hunt and leaves to thick . I could take some cold walks across frozen leafless hills and swamp bottoms about now
  13. I have seen very clear video of fish and matts of mussels in 110 Fow . Is the lake clearer then in the past ?
  14. Boat is out , washed and ready for bed . Ice can come anytime now
  15. I still think NR is a push as contributor on stocking reduction . For the first time , the door is cracked open .
  16. Here is my thoughts . If you keep pushing the natural reproduction card, it will justify the reduced stocking . Reducing the stocking means cutting costs . Now by mo means am I educated enough on the system but I think it's difficult to say there is that much NR without proof to back this up . Without the fin clip or the nose chip study being calculated , other then he said , she said , it's just a guesstimate and not proof from physical data . Now my question is , where are all these " extra " salmon ? We didn't see them in the tribs ( well at leas myself ) and if I recall , folks here were saying last season on the lake was terrible aside from 2 year old salmon . Well others might have had a good season this year but myself , I am truly disgusted at the fishing this season . Should I blame the fishery ? Well in part I can only blame myself but in reading through the forums " how was your season , slowest ever " it seems I'm not alone . As many say , it's the alewives that suffered over the 2013-14 harsh winters . In the history of the lake , it's 2 seasons and a ( guesstimate NR ) that are just now causing these issues ? Honestly I think it has started way before now , this is just a way of pushing the NR and reduce stocking levels . Weren't the steelhead suffering from feeding primarily on alewives ? What happened there that it just went away or less publicity ? Sorry folks , I think there is going to be an all time low in the fishery for quite a few upcoming years . If there are so " many " salmon now , I hate to see what less will bring if the game changer is NR . The only way this could possibly reverse is if the salmon reach an all time low and the alewives an all time high , then it may be reconsidered to increase the stocking levels . I fear we are in for 6-8 years ove tough fishing ahead for salmon . On that note , maybe the lake trout may take the brunt of the harvest which is what I'm reading folks say needs to happen anyway . Good luck at the meetings and happy fishing Rich
  17. 35 year trib fisher , 3 year lake fisher . Thought about moving western lake but it's beyond my means . Thinking it's over for me as well . . I'm still trolling around in a Dead Sea out here . Granted there is no other fish like a king but there are other many great fisheries in New York State . IMO , trolling is my least favorite fishing style . Wish you well wolfman Rich
  18. Ran 100 , 150 and 40 off ball today . Guess it's just the skunk on the boat that keeps the fish away
  19. Humm . You got me thinking about length . I was running 30-40' off the ball and would see streakers come off the bottom to look then drop back down. I figured they were looking at the ball and not seeing the lures so I shortened up to 8-10' lead. Neither worked so I have nothing to compare and still searching Rich
  20. I'm with ya but 90 degs out , still gonna be awhile Heading up to the boat for one last 6 day push then tow her home. I will be shopping for some ice gear while out there
  21. April -early June is not an option as we are putting ocean run fish out my back yard on the boat ( grandson) Many , many of these keep friends and family happy at that time of season so trolling the Great Lake is a passion I fill " between " seasons , winter , spring & fall. Detail : humm . I fish year round . Probaly 200 days or more when not in the woods . Married for 32 years . Not sure how much more detail I can give but will take all the advice I can get Thank you Rich ( son and grand daughter ) ( me )
  22. That is a good suggestion for sure . Given this is open water trolling and not stream or structure related , what would be the biggest help in that aspect , in your opinion ? 1. Location 2. Presentation 3. Conditions 4. Habits ( example forage ) 5. Confidence Or all the above. I have taken charter trips and it seems on those trips it is hit and miss but definitely a species target on results. Surly I need to learn more and staging salmon fishing is not what I'm interested in from a price point . Thank you all for the advice given Rich
  23. I have a great attitude leading up to and while on the water out there . It only takes 1 is always my motto . The area is great and the people are fantastic so that's what has brought me to the Great Lake for over 35 years . I understand about details . I was a NYS wilderness camping , hunting and fishing guide for 11 years . Can tell you exactly where to cast for an Adirondack trophy stream trout , troll for a remote pond brook trout, sit on watch for that elusive buck to walk through or hook up with an ocean run spawning striped bass . All this takes skill and understanding of the quarry habitat. I'm frustrated as all heck but not defeated , yet. This season I lost my dedicated crew . Having a crew that knows how to effectively set and change gear as well as opperate the boat was a big loss this year . Very tough to do this alone or with novice fishers as once it gets set it's usually there for awhile instead of changing . Another delemia is knowing the movements and fishing the currents during the summer . I dislike fishing staging fish the most . My wife says I always seem to fish the same water from Oswego to sandy pond . While the depths might vary , the patterns seem to stay the same . Honestly , I don't know what to change in that aspect . Ah well, there is always this last 6 day gasp upcoming from Friday - wends then I will have all winter and spring to dream again . Rich
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