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  1. I guess it is late for this, but a fair number of browns seem to migrate back to their stocking site. In Rochester, a lot of browns get put in east of Irondequoit Bay mouth out toward Oklahoma Point, and we could always find a concentration right up near shore there. I know the exact spot where DEC puts them in but it is a private residence. But if I find a crowd at every access point on I Creek Like I did the other day, I may try spoons from shore at the new Town of Webster Park, casting from the rocks. I think a lot of the browns that end up spawning in Webster and I Creek stage off Oklahoma and then run on later rain events.
  2. I don't see an adipose fin on the top fish, so I'm going with emerald shiner. I used to get lots of these in with the smelt when we dipped at Russell Station, and a lot of guys couldn't tell the difference (at least until they came out of the fryer.) The bottom look like small sunfish, we used to catch lots of these in early August in minnow traps in a shallow area of Fourth Lake where the pumpkinseeds spawned, and when we get landlocks in August, they are generally full of these even when there are good year classes of smelt in the Lake. They do not work as bait, however as they don't keep well in a minnow bucket, and they don't stay alive on the hook.
  3. I ask because the hatchery worker I know says they have sufficient cohos in the tanks, and they are done with Kings, so what is the justification for closing now?
  4. Regardless of your motivation, you'll need to get an Article 15 permit for every stream you intend to disturb, and you will also need landowner or municipal permission for anything you don't have title to, both for the permits, and to avoid possible trespass charges.
  5. When you get your magic powder, do you think you could grab me one of those geese that lays the golden eggs, or one of the spinning wheels that turns straw into gold?
  6. If the deed for a property includes the riparian rights, that includes fishing and it vests with the landowner, and the courts have ruled on that. I know landowners in the Adirondacks who pay taxes to the low water line on their lakes and I contend that they have the right to tell people they can't anchor or contact the bottom rom that point inland whether inundated or not. If you are on a public lake ( anything with more than tow landowners, and the bottom is under NYS h jurisdiction, you can basically sit 1 foot off the end of a dock and fish as long as you are not impeding navigation. Of course, I might decide it was time for a little RAP concerty in my front yard if people got too close.
  7. Time to take a road trip with the canoe and go up and anchor next to my buddy John!
  8. Or maybe they changed the name to the Department of Environmental Commerce! I have 9 rods that I use for Great Lakes fishing. And about 25 more for inland lakes and streams.
  9. If you owned a motel in Pulaski that could charge a 30% premium for a room in September and October, and still be booked solid, you would see it as a me me me attitude.
  10. I sent a comment to a friend at DEC to the extent that if the situation is critical enough to close the fly section, it would be logical to additionally require the release of all hens, and reduce the limit on males, and require salmon fishers to stop " fishing" once they had retained a limit, which would also help with the crowding and social distancing, which has to be a joke on some of those pools. Since the second cut was 20% of what remained after the first 20%n , it is actually a 36% cut by my math.
  11. I didn't realize the agency had been renamed the Department of Economic Conservation. I pay the same amount for a license to fish that you do. You also buy a license from the Federal Government to operate a livery service. I know and speak for lots of businesses that rely on the tributary fishery as well, so I am certainly a stakeholder.
  12. I think Dave has had a captains license, I know that his wife has a guides license. I introduced a few people like Francis Betters, the Adirondack fly tying guru, and Tom Rosenbaur, vice president of Orvis, to the Tributaries, but that was back before Fran Verdoliva got his job with the State. I realized that I could either guide or fish, and decided that I would rather fish and keep the day job, and then maybe get my license when I retired, but I don't have the energy to walk someone else all over the place all day, so when I can get away, I just fish. I believe Steve LaPan has explained the various stakeholder groups on numerous occasions at SOL and SOR meetings. He picked people who he, or other staff at DEC, knew from prior involvement with the fishery. I go back to before the first stocking cuts ( you must remember the Jolliff Paper, I still have a copy). As I worked in Environmental Science, I was often a resource to the Fisheries Advisory Board, of which I am now an at large member. Bill Abraham tapped me to facilitate at the Fisheries Congress (and when was there any "election" to the representation for that, Region 8 reps were all from the Charter Industry or government, no tributary anglers, although Regions 7 and 9 sent some). I often suspected to keep me from criticizing it, and I met Jerry Barnhardt and I think Steve Hurst through that function. I have sent written comments on most proposals and management actions for over 30 years. So I guess I have demonstrated a knowledge of the science and the data of the fishery, a willingness to listen to intelligent commentary, I have a track record of concern for the tributaries; in short I walk the walk, instead of just talking the talk. It was my understanding that I was asked to be on the Great Lakes Fisheries Commission Stakeholder panel because of my background in science and involvement in the fishery and the lake from outside the DEC. It is my sense from seeing the makeup of the group that I was the US counterpart to Jon Johnson, a very brilliant Canadian Scientist I met in many other contexts ( Stormwater, Blue Green Algae and Cladophora, type E Botulism, etc) on the panel. The " Secret" hatchery meeting was a one shot. I am not on any group that has met in less than a year, maybe it's two, other than MCFAB. But if you are worried about the GLFC panel, such illustrious Lake Personalities as Bob Songin, Vince Perlioni, and Jerry Ferluca do a great job of representing the "fill the box" crowd, and they were not elected, and I think all three serve on other stakeholder groups, so it is not like I am getting inordinate opportunity to influence decisions. As to the Atlantic Salmon, I stopped lobbying for a major Atlantic program for the lake back when Carl Widmer was still running the show down here and they tried and failed to get them established in Irondequoit Creek, but I didn't argue against it, especially if it is the Feds who are doing it and paying for it. And Jim Johnson was another of the great scientists I was privileged to meet and work alongside during my career.
  13. The League club prosecutes trespassers religiously, and maintains a security staff to patrol their property.
  14. There are really no other tributaries that offer the same morphology, although Oak Orchard and The Sandies up north come close, especially for swinging flies. The Niagara is overwhelming, the Genesee and the Oswego are very large and also urban, the smaller tributaries are smaller. The Salmon is "just right"! I have spots that are closer, but I will still make sure I get up to Pulaski for at least a couple of days this fall, unless the emperor declares everything closed again.
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