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Do you like the fly body or just the cone on the front? I bought a package of the cones several years ago and add them to other flies. I find they often entice fish when they stare down other flies without the cones. I bought the cones from A-TOM-MIK but I didn't see them on his site today. One of my best flies is an A-TOM-MIK Glow Hammer with the cone. I need to rety the leader on this fly multiple times each season.

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name: Dapper Dan & Break Time ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s): Time on Water: Weather/Temp: Wind Speed/Direction: Waves: Surface Temp: Location: LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 65 or so Total Boated: about 52 Species Breakdown: Brown Trout with several Steelhead, coho and atlantics to keep it interesting Hot Lure: Stinger spoons: Die Hard/Michael Jackson/ Green Glow Alewife/Chicken Wing/Glow Perch/Glow Gin and Tonic/Glow Frog Ice. Best sticks were Bleeding Shad Smithwick and Prism Bomber Trolling Speed: Down Speed: 2.0 to 2.5 Boat Depth: 15 to 90 Lure Depth: 8 to 40 ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Fished with my wife and Break Time. The North winds moved the temps out along with the fish. We found browns from 20 to 90 fow. Light winds made for comfy trolling except for the cold rain on Friday and the occassional fog, especially on Monday. We took rigger hits at 40, stick hits on the surface and free slider hits in between. Overall, our best presentation was spoons on 2-colors off boards. The browns were all over the water column, in and out of temp. We ended with a good box on Monday morning with 6 to 10 pounders, mostly 8-9 pounders so we took a picture of a few of the fish. The thick fog on Monday caused several boats to wander inside the bouys at the smoker when visibility was less than 100 yards. We tried for salmon for a bit but, we couldn't seem to stay away from the good brown fishing for long. Uploaded with ImageShack.us

I use a 30lb co-polymer tween the dispy and flasher and 20 lb flouro tween dipsy and spoons. I bought a spool of Yozuri co-polomer 6 years ago and still have plenty remaining. just store it out of the sun.

I use Walker clincher releases on my cable. This is a clincher terminal with a Blacks type release in one assembly which is pretty handy. Step 1: Drill out the rivet on the clincher release that holds the swivel clip and install a stainless steel machine screw, washer and self locking nut. Ste[ 2: Install a heavier swivel and clip such as those from Cannon. The swivel must be a bright metal, not the dark metal some brands use. Step 3: Strip the sheathing off the last foot of cable. Step 4: Install the clincher on the cable right up to the sheathing. This leaves you with extra stripped cable to make your electrical connection. Step 5: Back off the nut on the machine screw and capture the tagg end of the bare cable under the screw and then tighten it down. Cut off the excess. Step 6: Coat the exposed cable and hardware with liquid electrical tape. Coat most of the top probe eye with this as well. You will have enough exposed surface to trigger your auto stop, if not, scrap away more of the liquid tape until the auto stop regains function. This leaves you with a removeable connection that works great and lasts a long time. It allows you to remove your probe at will. Your Cannon auto stop will trigger when the probe comes out of the water. I'm not a fan of the swage cable crimps, I used Cannon terminals on both ends of my short cable. This is a personal preference only. Many people use the swages with good luck. You can buy the short drop cables pre-made if you like. The shorter cable comes off the bottom of the probe to the cannon ball. This cable is a lighter tensile strength to allow your ball to break off before your probe breaks in case of a hang up. You don't need to insulate this cable or its connections.

Try half hitching the rubber band to the main line and not the cable. Same result and much easier to attach. Also try clips on your cheater leader such as Roemer clips or Elberta Clip'er from Legendary products. The white ones are stronger. The clips go on and off is a second and stay put unless a big one hits; clips will slide down on a big fish. Double kings on a cheated rig are always a treat! Don't be afraid of using cheaters above flashers and flies. I was hesitant at first but, it's not a big deal. Fixed cheaters using clips will keep the cheater from tangling with the flasher. If you get a fish on the cheater, you won't mind any possible tangles. The fish usually always keep the flasher from tangling up. Retrieve your rigger without releasing the line when changing lures. Just reel it up at the ball comes up. Then detatch your cheater before opening the release. You won't get any tangles. After a day of using cheaters, you will learn the do's and don'ts.

Under normal conditions, I probably would not have moved for you. I feel that if you know where I am and can see where I'm heading and you turn into me, its your fault and you should adjust. Other boaters would learn the wrong lesson if I adjusted for them in this situation. The repercussions of a bad choice on your part should be yours. Saying that, the fog really changed things - it was a wild card!. No one could turn without the chance of finding someone during mid turn (radar equipped aside). In fog such as what we had, everyone must be prepared to avoid other boats emerging from the mist. Everyone needs to be as polite and considerate as Chip and Dale because we couldn't see much. In this instance, boaters should understand that no one could properly clear a turn and we all rolled the dice. I adjusted for everyone and for whatever reason last weekend. I could barely make out a boat in the fog, much less see what may have been pinching him on the far side. When boats come out of the fog 100 yards away, everyone must be prepared to adjust! The guy was very inconsiderate, thoughtless and probably a jerk. I sure would not have been happy to be out there without a GPS and auto pilot. There was no real wind to give a sense of direction. It is hard to troll a straight line staring at a compass. I was surprised by how quiet the trout were during the heavy fog. I figured they would be active. A lesson in that. I didn't fare well during the tournament (22nd out of 45) but had great fishing the day prior to and after the event. How many of you were using your fog horn as required? I used mine, but I didn't hear any other fog horns. I'm sure some guys thought I was honking at them when they were in sight. I kept my spotlight on as well.

On the Lam won both the tournemant and the calcutta! Great job!!

Talked with Jon 10 days ago. $50 per boat $60 to join Calcutta (IIR) Captain's meeting Friday evening at Jon's Fishing starts at 0530 with weigh-in no later than 1400 (IIR) All boats must fish from Jefferson and Oswego Counties If my memory is off, I apologize; I've slept since then.

Welcome Wrenchman. Will you be up this weekend?

Many of us have one of those or a Depth Raider. Suggest you do a search under Speed and Temp, as well as the product names. You will find enough posts on the topic to keep you entertained for a day. I see this is your first post. Welcome.

They're not made anymore which speaks volumes. Good sensor features, very poor connection method, lots of drag. I lost 2 probes before switching to a Depth Raider.

Danno, give me a call. Jekyll

Try it with sweet relish versus dill. Great on crackers as well!

I love watching young guys, teen agers, walk to a pool with shorts and sneakers, a cheap pole and a pocket of hooks, yarn and sinkers. They seem to catch more fish than do the guys dressed from an Orvis cateloge with the best rod and reel and a vest full of expensive tackle. Skill comes in many forms. You can learn to catch samon and trout but, you can't buy the skill.

Brondo has electrolytes

Misty: I had 2 old mag 10 low speed on the sides and a manual cannon on the transom center. The MAG-10s had difficulty with 15pound balls. This year's upgrade was 2 new riggers for the sides and I moved the 2 mag 10's to the transom. This provides me with 3 riggers for fishing and one dedicated probe rigger; I usually fish just 2 riggers. I was initially thinking of new Mag-10 HS but 3 things caused me to go with Big Jon: I was am leery of the high speed of the new Cannons; Cannon has put out a bad batch of riggers in the last year with lots of problems; the rigger shop that sold and installed them is a repair center of all types of riggers and the only ones they had in the shop were Cannons and Penns. The service center guys came and took the Big Jons today to repair one and replace one. They have one more chance ti get if cirrected before I deep six the them. All: Thanks for the Scotty info. It's nice to hear about the bad points as well as the good.

I switched from Cannon to Big Jon riggers recently and have had nothing but problems with them. Big Jon even replaced the riggers with 2 new ones but several problems persist. I've had several trusted people recommend Scotty riggers as a good alternative and I've searched the threads here for reports on them them. I see lots of glowing recommendations for Scotty riggers but they seem to be from several very happy users. I'm would like to hear from any unhappy Scotty customers and learn if there are any common problems. Please PM me if you don't want to publicly complain about Scotty equipment. Big Jon will refund my money but, now I need to buy an alternative.

I bumped bottom recently at 74 fow with a #1 with ring, set on 3, 30# wire at 2.2 at 325 feet out. Also bumbed using a mag dispey on 2.5 in 104 fow at 2.2 mph with 285 feet of line out.

I started using Otters last month and found they easily pull 2 coppers, 300 and 400 and a full core or, a copper and a full core. with a 600 copper, I could only run a full core. They don't like flat water and run better with a chop. Surprisingly, they run fine under water. I watched mine dissappear about 5 feet under and just track there, no harm, no foul. I learned not have my wife quickly pull in a board at idle. It wrapped around the boat. I was fighting a 40 lb'er at the time and needed the boat cleared to chase it.

Braid works as well as wire except when fleas are plentyfull. It loads up like wire but removing fleas from wire is quick and easy while removing them from braid is not! Braid is much less forgiving of abuse and inexperience than is wire.

300 works great off a Church Walleye board. You can run a 600 off the board as well but, it won't pull much to the side.

Line stretch and the release being too tight. Consider switching to braid and a Lite Bite Slide Diver and this won't happen again. Spice a 50 ft section of mono to the end of the braid and you will have a stealthy, easy to trip high rig.

Don't feed it after minight what ever you do!

#45 lb. The fish will in shallower at this time of the year so maybe a 300 (66 feet down) would be good. If you intend to run it down the chute, then get a 600 and mark it every 50 to 100 feet. Then, you only let out the length you want for the depth you are fishing.