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Ya I took the bait...... I am just wondering how you have time to compile such a complete list of players on IR while eating donuts and chasing bad guys? PS: can you get me out of jury duty?

I was proud of our Bills. They were down to a third option left tackle, missing nose tackle, missing outside linebacker and they still out-hit the G-men and should have won if a pass was thrown two feet further. PS: Your coach almost blew it at the end of the game........Kevin Gilbride isn't qualified to hold a clip board.

Six years with the same 30 lb Fireline and no break-offs. Still use it during flea season.

Congrats on the buck. Every deer shot with a bow is a trophy. Got one question.....did you club it over the head with your new bow?.........I don't see an entrance or exit hole

Looking to add some ratcheting dipsy rod holders in off season. Looking for opinions on people who have tried both.

50 mph gusts........ might go fishing instead. The Catt should be rocking with 9' waves pushing fish in. An overlooked hunting opportunity occurs soon after a steady rain. Those bucks laying down rublines and scrapes will feel the urge to retouch their "fire hydrants" after getting washed. BE SAFE

If it was in NY.......I would have said 3.5, 4.5. Since it is from the bread basket.....COULD be 2.5? Might be worth it to let him walk to see if he gets some mass next year......but I would be shooting. I use to be a trophy snob......but now I have more fun

Next question.....if you crank down the rod, how do you keep the liberator from releasing?

What happens when a fish hits the lower bait?.......looks like FUBAR-CITY. How is your tangle rate with that rig?

$1000 cheater rig ???????

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name: ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):10/7 and 10/9 Time on Water: Weather/Temp:Awesome Wind Speed/Direction:SW 5 mph Waves: none Surface Temp: 62 Location: LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: Total Boated: Species Breakdown: Kings and Steelhead Hot Lure: Trolling Speed: Down Speed: Boat Depth: Lure Depth: ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Got out Friday and Sunday mornings to enjoy the beautiful weather and put a cap on the season. Out of Olcott the picture on the fishfinder from 150-350' looks fantastic. There is a massive school of 2 year old kings with good bait levels. Difficult to target these fish as the thermocline is REALLY deep....below 110'. Hooks appear 150-110' feet down so I have been using an east-end spread of three riggers, two wires and a 400' copper all with flashers and flies. Despite the seemingly endless school of fish, fishing has been a little slow with bites coming every 45 minutes. Riggers set at 110', 125', 135-140', and mag wire dipsys back 350'-425'. My buddy Paul was in town from Kansas and really wanted to get out in the boat. We have not fished salmon together since high school so it was a great time reminissing about skipping school to go to the pier

NOAA is wrong on the temp. 61-62 degrees all the way down to 112'. Did not poke around inside. I set down on 320' and was into a good picture right away....straight out. Steelhead at 120' down......what is this world coming to?

Just got back from fishing Olcott. TONS of bait and hooks out 350' and deeper down deep. Thermocline is at 115' down!!!!! which is typically down 72' this time of year. All the east winds blew warm water in from the east end. We were catching steelhead and small kings down 115-125' down with flashers and flies. Mag dispsys out 400' and 450' back on wire, and caught one on a 400' copper. Be prepared to fish deep.

Finally getting a boat with a hardtop? Guys, I have seen this boat.....it is in perfect shape. You might want to list this boat on a saltwater site.....I think you will get closer to your asking price.

Speed, speed, speed. With spoons a speed/temp unit are very helpful to make sure your spoons are kicking and not dead. If you don't have a speed/temp probe try this ....... Put the spoon in the water next to the boat and make sure the action is right. Send it down. Now bump up your speed until your downrigger wires start to hummmmm. Try to point the boat into the down current so your lines are straight behind the boat and not angled. Any time you make a change in trolling direction you will have to adjust the throttle so the downrigger wires are maintained at a similar angle/blow back. For the silver species it is better to be too fast than too slow.

Having trouble catching fish on Erie lately? This might be why. Latest bloom I have ever seen! http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/modis/ ... 3.250m.jpg

You will also find on the site R&R tackle is back offering the super-light spoon models. . Very speed tolerant spoon that you can run down to Laker speeds if needed.

Sorry for your loss Ray. I am counting the days with my Britainy.......not looking foward to the end. Best cure is a new puppy.

Atlantics are kind of funny. They love to run 50+miles up rivers to spawn in headwaters. During their time, Atlantics ran the Oswego all the way to the seneca river into Seneca and Cayuga lakes and then up their tributaries. Fish ran all the way to Rome even. Reportedly they never colonized the Niagara because the big water did not suit their needs. It appears they need skinny water to spawn. They have been lifting fish over the Streetsville Dam on the Credit and are now finding them 70 miles upstream. If they removed the dams on the Oswego, Salmon, Sandy, Black etc. the fish would find a way themselves. No politician is going to sign off on removing clean energy sources and that is why I think the Atlantic problem will continue.

Reasons for the demise of Atlantics in order of importance are 1). Dams 2). Over harvest 3). Pollution 4). Thiaminase from alewife ingestion inhibits successful reproduction. None of these problems are going away. I hate waste. My tax dollars could be better served to fix the problems THEN do the stocking. You want to solve the atlantic problem?.........get rid of the dams so fish can get into the headwaters. New York ain't going to do it so stop wasting time and money on a pipedream. Out of approx. 2 million Chinooks stocked.....we catch approx. 70,000/year. Of the 1.1 million Atlantics stocked by the US and Canada.......creel survey shows only approx. 1,500 caught/year and no river fishery to speak of.

On the Canadian side since 2006, 5 million dollars spent, tens of thousands of volunteer hours, stream and hatchery improvement projects, a million fish stocked per year and they get a return of approx. 100 fish. The project is still in its infancy but I would categorize it as a failure at this point.

I think last years totals were 87,000. If they really wanted to plant Atlantics with the intention of getting a run to stick in the Salmon River watershed, then why do they ship the eggs to Cortland? Raise the fish at Altmar in Salmon river water! Just don't displace any Pacifics please. This program is a waste of money as it is currently constructed. This crap has been going on since 1983.......with the same results. If something ain't workin' then it is time to change how things are done.

Tony, with the forecast of strong NE, North winds this weekend, the fish will be moving in with the waves between the piers. Launch your boat and travel towards the mouth. Where you pass the last boat slips entering into olcott harbor at the metal retaining wall, there is a deep hole that gathers fish. Anchor and fish eggs on the bottom or cast glow spoons at night.

So what is the best way to drain the tank? Tubing size? Do you prime with your mouth (insert joke here)?

Naw......this type of weather puts the kings between the pierheads. You just need to grab your pier-gear.