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Not trying to censor anyone or get into a discussion on NYS gun laws, my comments were meant to be specific regarding the use of the classifieds on this site and the rules of use. I use and own guns including an Ithaca Deerslayer so I’m pro hunting and pro gun. Just made a suggestion that this site was primarily for fishing and fishing related items.

The rules for the classifieds on this site prohibits the sale/trade of firearms and ammunition. Gun parts like a barrel might fall under a grey area, but considering this is a free listing fishing site one might use another site for firearms classifieds. This is a great forum and want to keep it that way.

If your cable steer unit has VRF- Virtual Rudder Feedback then the NAC1 Feedback port is not used. I think the Lowrance units have VRF and don’t require the stand alone Rudder Feedback Sensor which would plug in that NAC1 Feedback port.

Lots of variables here-trolling speed, line diameter, lure type etc etc. Unless you have smart troll or fish hawk td to measure it becomes a guess. I’d say the old 5’ depth per color of lead core and 5’ of depth per oz. weight would get somewhat close especially at 2 mph or under. Over 2 mph I’d shade it shallower and the same goes for more length and more weight. Most of the time you’ll let the fish tell you what they want. To me most of the time “junk” lines like lead core run higher than what you might think and what printed dive curves say. Using a rough formula is most helpful in setting your spread and preventing tangles. If it works then you can repeat.

Another option to get different depths from a lead core rod is to use a shorter length of lead core- 3 or 5 colors are both good choices- then use snap weights or dive bombs to achieve different depths. This option has a couple advantages over putting 10 colors on a reel and letting out less of the lead core to achieve shallower depths. First a short core can go on a smaller reel than a 10 color. Second you will have all the lead in water getting you away from the sag/drag of lead core from board to rod and the added wear on the lead core. Mono backer or braid is a better choice in that rod to board connection than lead core. The only thing you need to store on boat is a small box of snap weights and some releases or rubber bands. Many times there are different ways to get the result you want.

Slide divers can slide on either braid or mono. I am currently using 40lb Maxima mono leader on my slides. In the past I have also used 30 and 40lb Berkeley Big Game mono which has flea resistance. I find the heavier pound test doesn’t need to be changed out as frequently as the 30lb. Easier on your hands than grabbing wire.

You might want to look at type of diver and leader length as a means to make netting easier. By using a slide diver you might be able to shorten lead length enough to make your 10 footers handle easier. If you did decide to go with a shorter diver rod, an 8 foot diver specific rod would be best choice. Diver rods take a beating especially with wire so having a heavy enough rod is important. There are some reasonably priced diver rods available.

Chowder and Sk8man are giving you good info. The Daiwa 47 Great Lakes have a balky drag unless they have had drags up graded to carbon fiber and are a 5 color tops reel. For a 10 color the Penn 330 is an old time traditional choice. The Penn GTi American made reels are workhorses. One way to use a bit smaller reel is to use Tuff Line Micro Lead as it has a thinner sheath with a smaller diameter than other lead core manufacturers. A snap weight that will work on leadcore without damaging it is the Michigan Stinger Dive Bomb so you can attach weight midway on leadcore as you deploy.

Get a dedicated dipsey rod setup with braid or wire to run off the side. IMO a dipsey or slide diver running off the side and away from the boat is much more effective than running straight off the back. Fishing solo you also have to be aware of which rods have to be cleared to land fish and prevent tangles. You’ll likely have to limit your cheaters on riggers when you add a third rod. Another option would be an in line board with a lead core or short copper again putting out a wider spread vs packing more rods behind the boat.

Few years ago I played around with some hybrid lead core copper setups walleye fishing with 2 colors of lead attached to a short copper. One of the goals was to make deployment of the copper quicker at the slower walleye speeds and easy pulling baits like worm harness. It worked but I went back to lead core as it was easier to deal with. I would agree with Legacy that at salmon speed and salmon baits that copper is the answer to achieve depth vs long lead core.

With my Trollmaster (wired version) the tiller throttle is connected and starts/operates normally. The Trollmaster linkage is a loop so it doesn’t restrict the stock linkage if it is used. If you are using the throttle control and have the kicker above idle then you could increase speed with tiller however you could not take it back down to idle as the Trollmaster has the linkage pulled up and advanced. The model I have has an idle button which drops kicker back to idle and will also go back to your last setting if pushed again. I have my control on one of my riggers so I can adjust speed or drop it to idle from back of boat to fight or net fish.

Reel Doc suggest you use search feature to look up previous posts on this topic. Has been discussed pretty extensively. All three have been around for a while and have their pros and cons. I have a Trollmaster 2 which in ten seasons I have just replaced one part. Had some issues with it not being waterproof which some silicone and electrical tape fixed. Trollmaster has kits for different motors so they don’t vary models just using specific mounting kit for the motor being used. I Troll is newest of three as to design and does offer some nice features. Check the past posts.

Charter Captains on the western end of Lake Ontario and eastern end of Lake Erie looking for an organization that offers more than the drug testing requirement are invited to look into membership of Eastern Lake Erie Charter Boat Association. For new applications received for 2020 in November and December 2019 there will be no initiation fee. A member benefit page and application for membership are available on ELECBA website which can be accessed directly from the Lake Erie United (LEU) forum. The ELECBA was recently awarded the Presidents Award by New York State Conservation Council for its efforts in promoting fishing and youth outdoor activities. For more info you can PM either “mostly muskies” Capt Larry Jones President or “mr 580” Capt Frank Schoenacker Treasurer on LOU or LEU. Thanks!

Do a search and you’ll find several discussions from 2018. Comes up as a scam. A vendor whose products are listed on their site at a crazy low price had no idea where they would source his product. Their listings and descriptions appeared to be copied from legitimate vendors. If a price is too good to be true, it usually isn’t.

The Luhr Jensen Trolling Speed Indicator has been around for years and measures surface speed with a weight attached to a pendulum. Experienced trollers could judge their speeds by downrigger cable angle or dipsey rod tension just as well as what this device offers. If you have GPS speed on your electronics that is way more accurate than the Luhr Jensen device. Hard to believe they still make these things. My advice save your money and look for a used Fish Hawk, Depth Raider or Moor Subtroll over the winter.