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John, I can work Rocky Dock and other structure sites on Cayuga with my Lowrance 5200 + the Hot Map premium 08 but it sure helps to have a live wire tending the wheel. I'm pretty sure the new Lowrance HDS series will deliver the same or better performance w/ a premium chip in it. I'd like to add an HDS diplay w/ the BR24 radar but it's probably going to be awhile. Here's a link to the guy's Sean got his stuff from. http://www.boemarine.com/ I've seen other guy's refer to this outfit on this forum. Good luck-Andy

If you are serious about running multiple copper or long core lines the best way to do it is out to the sides off big boards (I like Auroralites, they really pull). It also helps to run Mag size dipsies on 1.5 -2.0. Mags dive steep and don't trail out behind the boat. If you hook up on one copper while deploying an other it's best to get the one you are letting out back in & out of the way.

John, I've got the Navionic's Hot Maps Premium 08 on my Lowrance 5200 Global Map and it's pretty good (not perfect)on Cayuga. The new Lowrance gps is the HDS series and Sean Brown (Hooked Up) has installed one on his Charter boat. I don't know what he's got in it for a map but I'd talk to him about his setup. -Andy

Here's an easy way to get setup http://www.greatlakestackleshop.com/products.php?cat=56

If the kicker is a 'remote' model I don't think you are going to have much choice about getting & installing the remote controls just to start & shift it but you will probably want to also install a Troll-Master b/c factory remote throttles are notoriously poor for precise speed control. If it's a tiller model I wouldn't worry about a remote throttle right now b/c most tiller kickers give you good speed control w/ the twist grip (no long, sloppy factory linkage = good speed control).

I spent a bunch of time looking for what you are looking for. After putting the pencil to the paper, a new Yamaha T8 looked like the best deal. Got mine from http://www.shipyardisland.com/YamahaSpecials-T8.htm I really like this kicker, it's got at least has much power as a 9.9 and I'd say more. -Andy

Better late than never- Happy Birthday Shawn!, by the way I think that willow branch was big enough to keep! -Andy

My first time w/ the #**# things I tired to raise em a little but they kept coming, so I touched the down toggle and what I got was the weight started dropping, so I hit it up and it started coming all the way up, so I hit it down, and down she went, so I hit it up and that's when a good brown grabbed my spoon- so... now whenever things are slow I try to raise one of my new corner riggers!

I don't seem to be able to just raise the weights 5-10' feet on my new Mag 5HS riggers? When I hit the switch they just come up to the surface. On my older Mag 5 riggers it seems like I can hold my finger on the toggle and they will raise until I let go. What am I doing wrong?

Got the riggers back from Screwy Louie's and the older Mag 5 had a bad circuit breaker, the new Mag 5HS had a bad board. Bottom line is that I just happened to have two riggers on the same side malfunction w/ in 5 minutes of each other. Used both riggers the other day and all is well. I still don't quite get the switches on the new Mag 5 HS riggers, so I started a new thread/question.

Greg, are you running Mag dipsies on 2.0? If you run Mags they dive steeper & a 2.0 setting should keep them out of that chute copper. -Andy

That's quite the rig! I think you might need to change your ballast and your prop after you get it set up. When my coppers fire I usually try to get the kids to reel em in, but after a few fish they seem to get leery of 'fish on'!

You can get some inline planer boards to 'pull' up to 300' and even 400'(w/ a spoon)copper rigs but, you would probably want to be using a Church Walleye or OffShore brand board. It sounds like the inline you are trying to use does not have enough draft to pull your copper line out & away from the boat. Always clip the release to the backing-not the copper. I find it's easier to use copper rigs out on a regular dual board setup, using a mast & planer line. These systems can pull 600' copper rigs w/ the correct release.

You should be able to find a lot on here by searching thru previous posts. Go thru them & get back to us w/ specific questions -we'll be glad to help (just don't want to reinvent the wheel) -Andy My basic setup: Okuma cv55 (or Daiwa 27/47 for shorter cores) w/ 300yds Super braid to core (w/ albright) to 100' 20lb floro (w/ albright) to swivel (palomar) 6' floro to snap I use 7' Ugly stik rods in med or med heavy depending on number of colors. I'm not sure I'd recommend the Okuma cv55s anymore (quality control problems).The Okuma Clarion or Catalina would probably be a better choice for longer cores, though I haven't used them myself.

We had to work for the box we got today, that's for sure! I trolled drop offs & points from 100-350' running riggers at 45' and 80' w/ spoons and spoon cheaters. I ran my divers on 2 w/ 180-230' out, and I ran a bunch of different shallow cores and some deep coppers off the boards, mostly w/ spoons b/c the FFs on the wires just quit after noon or so (today, my cores & coppers were the least productive rigs).Hoping to be back out over the weekend, will be on 68 -Andy

Got out of Long Point @ 10:30am. Worked LP, Sheldrake, and some open water too. As RR pointed out in his post, the fish are scattered, but a t-cline is setting up. We got some nice bows on the cheaters (though we had to put up w/ cleaning off a lot of shakers), and some big lakers on the main spoons on the riggers. Flasher/fly combos on the wires were hot from 11:00-12:00 and then they were real quiet. Really nice day out on the water and the grill is ready, gotta go! -Andy

Hey Mark, I've assembled a real motley crue of brigands for today's mission and my wheel man can't see very good so I wouldn't be surprised if we do 'run' into you somewhere out there -Happy trails

I need to get back on the water & my kids (crew) are in school. PM me. -Andy

Thanks for the heads up. I haven't been out since Barney's & I'm hoping to hit the water tomorrow if I can round up a crew. -Andy

Super nice bow, congrats. Sounds like a great time!

I'm not worried about you two, but if Vic brings along Eskimo Joe I think you guys will have to compete in the Pro division! -Andy

Nice fish & great pics. We just finished 1st cutting & I'm getting very ready to get back out on the water.-Andy

Might see you guys on Sat or Sun, first cutting is DONE! Shouldn't be too much traffic w/ the big event over on Seneca. I'll be on 68, pm me for cell #. -Andy

What Gambler said works great! Simple and effective.

Cold front Fri, should bring more seasonable temps and maybe some challenging fishing? -Andy