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Get and read this, it's a good overview of all the techniques you will encounter trying to figure out what we are talking about http://www.amazon.com/Great-Lakes-Salmo ... 620&sr=8-1 I don't really need my copy anymore so if you want to borrow it, I'm sure we could arrange it. Here is a site that carries a bunch of the stuff we use to troll for trout and salmon http://www.atommiktrollingflies.com/misc.htm My suggestion to to you would be to look over some of this stuff, and then go back thru this forum reading posts. After you have a sense of what's going on I would suggest that you get a ride w/ somebody here (we are always looking for fishing partners for a one day or another) and see some of these techniques and gear at work. After that you would have a pretty good idea of what's going to work for you. I could tell you that one good idea would be to consider getting set up with 1 downrigger and one dipsy rod setup and get a couple inline boards for spring and or copper/core to the side but this is not going to mean much to you at this point. Do some reading & some surfing and when you feel like you have some specific questions, fire away. We'll be glad to help in any way we can. -Andy P.S. Watch out, this kind of fishing is infective and you might just get sucked in farther than you could imagine!

Nick, the mouse ears are probably ok, just don't wear your birthday suit! Hope you are having a great day! -Andy

I was over at the lake today and at this point both Myers and Finger Lakes Marina are closed, Myers for the dredging and FLX Marina because they are afraid the concrete launch ramp is going to break due to the need to back so far out due to low water. Treman is OK.

I'm glad to hear you got some good sized ones up high. One thing I've noticed fishing Seneca this winter is that a lot of guys are running all high lines and catching a pile of small LLs & Browns (12"-17"). I'm not sure what kind of impact this will have on the fishery?

Mono can deteriorate underneath the core when used as a backing. I would use a superbraid instead and it takes up a lot less space on the spool.

Here's a piece of advice for ordering any kind of equipment for business or pleasure; If you really want to be using something in April you need to order it by mid Dec. This way you account for the following delays: a) the X-mas shopping budget crisis delay and the post holiday lethargy delay.b) The shipping delay # 1. c) The shipping delay # 2. d) the accessory delay(better known as "but I figured it would come with all that stuff delay"). e) the really bad one - 'THE INSTALLATION DELAY'-this is when you really figure out all the stuff you needed and thought you had in part d of this saga + it's when you realize that you really should have had somebody w/ more experience and more available time install this thing because it's May 1st & the yard looks terrible, the grass needs to be mowed, the pool deck needs to be stained and ...well you know what I mean!

I would think that you would get a "fainter" echo back the deeper the fish is so the same size fish would appear smaller but it's been bloody hard for me to catch the same size fish 40' apart in the same troll to verify this.

RR, do you know what the skinny is on launching at Finger Lakes Marina, if Myers is closed that's my next best option?

It is pretty shallow from just past the bridge out to the drop. I went out of there today.

I had a great time out there today, glad we were able to make that happen and I'm real glad you brought that R&R spoon with you! -Andy

Couple thoughts; 1. I like to use snubbers, I use the Howie snubbers, they are fairly unobtrusive. 2. I like to use flies w/ the tournament rig, i.e a single followed by a treble. 3. Set the drag so that it's just barely giving up a little line all the time, then after the fish is on DON'T HORSE IT, adjust the drag a little and work it in patiently! 4. For FLX sized fish a rod w/ some give is helpful.

Hey W.W.IV. if you came all the way down & went home without getting the boat wet you deserve a chance to get out on the water. Shoot me a PM w/ #, etc & we'll figure it out!

Couldn't get out of here this past weekend.I'm shooting for Wens now, day after tomorrow. Looks like a nice calm day. If anybody is free PM me. -Andy

Shade, thanks for mentioning these ITO flies. I checked them out & I like the glow green with the white in it and I ordered a few. Variety is the spice of life! -Andy

Greg, get a Perko battery switch and then get 2 new batteries from whoever you want to install the switch, those batteries you got are "picked". I feel like I can say a couple words about batteries in general b/c I've got like 10 tractors and a bunch of other trucks and equipment w/ batteries, so here I go; 1st -a lot of these batteries are made by the same company and they switch things around all the time. 2cd -every starter/alt package is going to charge/use a battery differently so the same battery will have a very different life from one setup to another. 3. Battery quality control in general is poor and highly variable, it's best to just replace them when they perform questionably after they are much over 4 years old and then again you will have one that seems to go forever. There, I'm done!

I just finished up my emergency/backup bilge pump and after reading a post made today I thought I'd give this baby a plug! Glen (Spoonfed) cued me in on a good deal on the Rule 1500gpm pump, I connected it to a sealed 2 wire power lead w/ shrink connectors, added a waterproof fuse up near the lead ends and a pair of clips to hook it to the battery. I got a 8' section of smooth pliable radiator hose for a pump out line. This rascal is staying high/dry and going into the house at the end of the day w/ my fowl weather gear - it will be easy to test and it should not get filled w/ frozen bilge water or any other misc junk. Total cost was less than $85.

I'm w/ Billy, spill the beans on this "leader secret"

I might steer clear of those Okuma 45 Convectors. I myself and several other guys I know have had problems w/ them.

I'm aiming for hitting Seneca Sun or Mon in my 16.5' & looking for a copilot, pm me.

You can get 4 colors on a Daiwa 27LC w/ backing& 100'FC leader. I've got one w/ 5 colors on it but that's pushing it. The 27LCs were on sale @ http://www.glensoutdoors.com/ProductDet ... de=ADPx7LC + another couple bucks off if you use "The Find " coupon #. These are great reels for short cores and flat lines!

Bob, good to see that you understand it's not usually a good idea to have the wife and the girlfriend in the same place! Might see you up there-Andy

Hey Jeff, thanks for directing my attention to the blog, I did catch the browns piece back earlier but the spring kings stuff was new and great reading! -Andy

Stinger, the bill won't move along quickly enough for that black hearted bunch of brigands on Cayuga who run 6 rods/ man.

So, does a regular camera flash fail to charge these strontium aluminate particles? Do I really need a black light- I'm confused. Isn't there UV in the flash spectrum?

A couple years ago I got a small flash unit & started using it to charge glow baits. I've found this to be time consuming and I'm not real sure how effectively I'm charging stuff up. Could anybody w/ some serious experience w/ this issue tell me what they do? Thanks, -Andy