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One day with Todd Young will give you five years off your learning curve that is more important than any lure you could ever purchase Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Fat AZ will have rod holders that tip so u can run em flat, up in the air of tips in the water. Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thanks Ivan! Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Todd Young of Muddy Creek Fishing guides has a 5" bait of mine with over 100 Chautauqua fish on it and another with over 70 Chautauqua fish . Todd has been using my baits for around 6 years and has caught 100s of fish on 5" Bakers. Trust the guys who make a living on the lake and fish it daily on what's best. Year in n year out. BAKERS , Boss Shads, Perch baits and the legendary WILEYS. Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Most guides on the lake use a combination wileys, bakers n boss shads. Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Biggest fish I've ever seen on that lake I lost trolling a pretty baby jtd wiley over 16 fow just south of the bridge. Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Blueeye, I do need to say that there is more than just 30" fish in the south end, most true 50's come outta the south end of Chautauqua Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Good points gentelman and please know I appreciate your time and effort to post. Great topic and nice to hear both sides. I will bring this up at the next meeting and will have an answer for the ya'll when it's over. I can say I was against the 3 fish rule at first but I maybe coming around. Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I say if ya can't beat em, join em. Mike thomas n I woulda been in the $ last summer at Chautauqua if it wasn't for lost fish as we coulda been up there with Dr dave n frank if we stuck what hit. I'm on the fence about the 3 fish rule but think it's awesome we are rethinking the way tourneys are run. Nolad- I miss those Cpt Larry tourneys also, I remember signing up early bc I was scared of not getting in the 125 people cut off. I'm gonna invite the Pennsylvania guys n Ohio guys, hope that's cool and I hope to get the #s up again. Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Most people know by now certain lakes at certain times are better for casting vs trolling. Our summer Chautauqua outting is usually won trolling the south end so if u wanna win, do u troll the south end or do we change the whole format and everything we have had in place so someone else can win? Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

It was my thought originally that if Ur tired of guys catching more fish than u, then change the way you fish to be able to compete. Like if u can't compete with trollers, then join em n go out side Ur comfort zone. It's a game to be won and u may have to change the way u fish if u wanna win. Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Man........ at first I was against the 3 largest fish but now u guys got me scratching my head with a more open mind...... Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thoughts????? Had a member ask if we should go to a tourney format where we only count our 3 best muskies instead of getting points for each fish to an unlimited amount. I guess this is how salmon tournaments are run but this new mentioned idea was ment to help even the playing field between casters n trollers. Throwing my 2 cents out there..... I think each and every fish your lucky enough to catch should count and not best 3. It's an open discussion guys- tell me the communities thoughts. If its something the majority support, i will make changes, if not- we will keep it the same. I'd also like to see if anyone wants to have an "informal" half day - ONE LURE challenge on Cassadaga (limited to #s) the morning after our Chautauqua outting. Thanks for your thoughts in advance. Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

@blueeye- where did your post go? Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

The team format seems to be the majority favorite but I'm sure not everyone is happy, we will try it n see how it works for this year. Be neat to also keep track of points for all tourneys n have a 2017 champ team imo. Thoughts? Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Frank (toothyfisherman) recommended a team format as that's what u guys do for 3 rivers n I listened. Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I'm also against guiding during a tournament but need that passed by the counsel first Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Happy others favor the new rules. Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Trying here...... Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Also new rule- it's a boat tournament now and a max of 6 rods per boat Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app

No Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app