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Good start for Trolling Spoons or Waste?
Sk8man replied to smallcal's topic in Tackle and Techniques
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Good start for Trolling Spoons or Waste?
Sk8man replied to smallcal's topic in Tackle and Techniques
I'd hold on to one of those spoons the Blue Mullet Pfleuger #4 (looks like) because that is pretty old and is a classic copper jerking lure...one of the best ever made...may be worth money now and certainly will be in the future. It is in the last pic at the left of it with the little fly like thing at the back. Some of the others look like Northport Nailers and Southport Slammers, Northern King, and the ones on the blue hanger are a wide variety of flutter spoons with a few Suttons (thin silver plated ones with copper solid rings). The ones at the extreme right of the last pic look like home made blank flutter spoons from the pic (somewhat hard to tell exactly from the pics/lighting. If it were me I certainly wouldn't "scrap" them especially the Suttons. The Sutton's are real silver plating but have a protective lacquer coating...they do tarnish fairly easily but sometimes you can bring them back to life a bit with jewelers rouge or silver polish. Even if the finish doesn't come back real well on them they can still be very effective. I use nail polish on many of my old lures especially silver and gold glitter and then coat it with a top coating of acrylic. For the spoons in worst shape I'd use reflective tape on them after replacing the other hardware. In my view it is mainly the ACTION of those lures anyway that is most important. Replacement of rings and hooks is a good suggestion. On the Sutton's though I would not replace the solid rings only the treble hook with a single salmon siwash hook about the same size or weight as the treble on it and cut the treble off with wire cutters to save the solid ring which I feel contributes to the action of the spoon. -
Better get Kinger some rubber pants he'll surely pizz when he sees his new ride Ed !
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The old Downeaster clamp on rod holders used to clamp on my little aluminum boat pretty good in times past but I would recommend that you install some VERY sturdy rod holders with bracing underneath if they wobble at all on the gunwale. The equipment we usenow puts a lot ofstrain on the rodholders and bases and when you combine that with a Chinook salmon your equipment could be "history" if you have flimsy rod holders.
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I think Chris was right on the money
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Grayling wanted to escape, but I made ​​the jump mongoose!
Sk8man replied to VladimirR's topic in Fishing Videos
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Over the years I have fished in just about everything including snow storms in February and breaking my way through the channel ice to get out there (Seneca) but have come to the conclusion that with the exception of perhaps derby fishing it usually isn't worth the effort and more to the point the frustration and aggravation involved in boat and speed control. When tangles become the "rule" rather than the "exception" it takes most of the fun out of things and in my view it just isn't worth it anymore. There is always another day!
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Just make sure everything is fastened to the boat real well. When the weight is suspended or even when up in the air there is a lot of torque at the base from the weight dangling not to mention if the weight should get hung upon bottom. If you plan on using dipsey divers the rod holders will also have to be fastened down real well for the same reason as the downriggers -torque. I'd practice a bit with the downriggers to get used to them If going out on Lake O you will have to choose your days (wind and waves etc.) and Stay relatively close to shore. In the Spring the browns and other fish will be close to shore so you'll be fine and you might want to start out with a combination of stickbaits and medium sized flutter spoons run 30-60 ft back behind the downriggers and experiment with the distance of the leads (shorter and longer). If you have Yellowbirds or small inline planer boards and relatively stiff action rods the boards can be run right along the shoreline with floating stickbaits (floating to keep from hanging up on bottom and rocks etc.). Sometimes the fish especially browns will be hugging the shore in very shallow water especially in the early morning before things get too bright and when there is a chop on the water. Productive areas include river or stream mouths especially where here is a mud line....fish the edge of it where the color line is. go back and forth in it with your lines. Troll in "s" curves and vary your speed up and down intermittently. Other folks may have additional suggestions or different ways of doing it but this is some basic stuff to start. Good luck with it. Have a great season.
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Wanted Looking for a 21' Penn Yan Tournament
Sk8man replied to Adm Byrd's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
Good one Kev -
Wanted Looking for a 21' Penn Yan Tournament
Sk8man replied to Adm Byrd's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
Hopefully there is a legitimate deal out there somewhere and not just someone just testing the water in terms of price Bob. -
I would think it might be wise to experiment to see what might do the trick without adding too much weight initially up front as it will effect your top speed, trolling and the way your boat handles. I'd go with the minimum you need to keep the bow down to come up on plane and still handle OK and cut through the water fine at lower speeds while trolling. Every boat is different in terms of weight distribution and it will take some experimentation to get the right "balance".
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Guess that is why I've always had Whalers
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I just don't accept at face value all the marketing hype that a lot of folks accept as gospel truth without questioning the logic of it much like the "herd mentality". In other words.....We can't even SEE UV light and it is highly possible that fish can't either.... so all the marketing hype just might be a SCAM.... I wasn't trying to be a smart azz either I fully believe what I am saying...The stuff that actually glows from the lures is not truly UV light or it too would be invisible to us.
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I guess one of the things that strikes me is that UV rays are invisible to humans and I would assume that true UV light emanating from UV finishes would be as well so the electromagnetic wave lengths that we perceive are not the same UV wavelengths that the fish may be perceiving. I say "may" because I haven't seen anything in the way of actual research yet that has conclusively determined that they have that capability despite all the marketing hype directed at fishermen and anecdotal information concerning results of specific lures with alleged UV capability. I still maintain that color - especially in deep water presentations is further down on the decision tree for fish than more basic things like figure-ground discrimination, contrast, and movement/motion discrimination (e.g lure "action") as it is for most visual systems within most species of animal life. Human perception of color is determined by our brains interpreting incoming wavelengths of light (a small sample possible in the electromagnetic spectrum compared to other species) and agreeing through language on a description of what that "color" is called. Whether other species with different rod/cone formations or the absence thereof actually detect those "colors" as such is an open question. Eye physiology plays an important role in that deeper water "bottom dwellers" may have different eye structure and make-up because they don't really NEED color perception in their primary environment (i.e. more rods than cones etc.) and if so they may be perceiving shades of gray rather than true "colors" Just my theory of it but thought I'd throw it out there....
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Sold / Closed Truck Parts Trolling gear
Sk8man replied to Pennfish's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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Always worth a shot John especially at the price you paid for the material Best of luck with it!
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Often a table "jig" is made to assist in the process of getting accurate bends as well as a mechanical or handheld bender used to prevent "folding" at the bends. Sometimes if the steel has a high nickel content (there are various grades of hardness in ss) it will be much more difficult to bend and careful heat treating is needed to prevent damage to the material. Helps to have the right equipment to do it right.
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Pays to check the tips of wire rods periodically
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
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Fish vision and color (an interesting article)
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Geez Tim I figured you'd read between the lines..... sorry about that...http://midcurrent.com/science/fish-eyesight-does-color-matter/ -
This article primarily concerns fly fishing in saltwater but many of the basic principles may apply to trout fishing and trolling in fresh water as well. Just something to take us away from obsessing about warmer weather







