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  1. Yes. 100%. My post was relating water levels from cape Vincent to ogdensburg and then ogdensburg to lake st. Lawrence showing how the river drops as you head down river and how drastic the drop is at the narrows of the river right now compared to its gradient further east. That has nothing to do with the wind direction currently. Of course lake ontario levels fluctuate with the winds and its ripping out there right now. I've been listening to waves crashing all day. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  2. Stiff north west winds cause the water to drop the further west you go now? It's been exactly thr same for 5 days. You see the Cape Vincent graph? That's wind. The difference between ogdensburg and St. Lawrence? Yea that's not wind. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  3. What? Wow. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  4. Longline those are the only live gauges I can find also. Lost a lure has access to live gauges on lake st. Lawrence but it's a couple feet off from what gets published the next day. He also has live outflow numbers also that we cant see publicly if we need them.
  5. 2 fit from Cape Vincent to ogdensburg. That's about 55 miles. Then a 9 ft drop from there to the Gauge in Lake St. Lawrence probably only 25 miles down river. Shows how restrictive the river is at that point.
  6. They claim costs are actually increased going down as well. Thrust and speed have to be increased for steering and they have to use tugs to assist in areas they normally wouldnt. I believe Chinook explained it all better than I can a few pages back. I know personally when I launch at the dam many times I run 18-20 miles down to St. Francis proper to start fishing. With the high current this past year I gain a couple mph going down but I have to use considerably higher rpms to stay on plane coming up. Even in my 19ft glass skeeter fuel costs go up probably 20% or more making that long run at 4500-5000 rpms over the normal 3-4000. You know how that goes as a boat owner. Gallons per hour goes up exponentially.
  7. Your gauge that I dont have access to is 2 feet different than the one that's used to measure Lake St Lawrence. Looks like they are managing flows to keep it at 235.
  8. Yea just saying I dont have access to anything but public data. What is flow at now at the dam? Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  9. Nope. Just public data. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  10. Your talking something the size of the west river of the Niagara through one of the most heavily populated places in canada to prevent something that's happened twice in 60 years. The river is miles wide in parts down there. It would make the seaway project itself seem small. Personally I think we've messed with nature enough. We arent always going to be able to keep the river within its banks no matter what we do. Look at the Mississippi and the devastating floods they experience even with limitless levys and flood gates along its entire stretch. Ma nature is just cunty at times and when we live here for the good, we have to deal with the bad. Hopefully it's a dry spring and all can return to normal soon.
  11. I found Ogdensburg levels finally. You can see how bad the river gets restricted at that point even with the floodgates wide open. Ogdensburg at 244 feet still. Just 2 weeks ago was about even with lake st. Lawrence. 2 days ago it was almost 10 feet different.
  12. They havent updated in 2 days. It was steadily dropping almost a foot a day. If I had to guess I'd say 234. We will know this week. Residents are all saying its the lowest they've ever seen.
  13. Ok I just looked it up and where did you find that number? I hasnt been updated since the 5th like I said and it was 2 feet lower then?? Ur telling me it went up 2 feet in 2 days? Did they shut the dam off?
  14. Thats good its slowed then. It went from 243 to there quick if you look. How much did they reduce flow? Hopefully they can keep it up another week or more without reduction for minimum or ice. The pics are really cool to see.
  15. They havent updated in 2 days. It was steadily dropping almost a foot a day. If I had to guess I'd say 234. We will know this week. Residents are all saying its the lowest they've ever seen.
  16. Yes.. extremely high and extremely low.
  17. 231 feet and change before it effects water supplies
  18. Not complaining about Lake st. Lawrence water levels 1 bit. I'm applauding them for doing exactly what they are doing and draining it down. Its rapidly dropping levels are showing you why that these flows arent possible once lake ontario drops below a certain level like I've explained to you over and over now. If they did this in September they would have reached minimum in 2 weeks and then had to back off the rest of the fall. It wouldnt of helped. Doing it now is genius. They are going to have to back off flow for ice formation anyway so all this water being let out now is a bonus because when they reduce flows for iceformation lake st. Lawrence will rise back towards normal levels during a time when flows would have had to be reduced anyway. As far as real muskies go I'm sorry I dont believe in the make believe 6 footers you probably believe in and think you've seen. Again I believe in what is real and factual. My boats 2 over 56" and 17 over 50" this season from the St. Lawrence will have to do.
  19. Iroquois dam isnt the bottleneck. Iroquois dam was put in place after they eliminated the worst part of the bottleneck and created the locks. That whole area used to be Rapids before they created the seaway and the lakes. Have you ever looked at water levels prior to the seaway? Yes lake Ontario could have been much higher at times without the flood control and ability to even out flows using the lakes reservoirs .
  20. Holding steady. Itll take some time for the water to pass through the narrows in the river. Lake Ontario was expected to rise as much as 2 inches this month tho so if we dont lose any ground and remain even that's huge. No matter what it's a win, this is a window that doesnt present itself very often and they've never taken advantage of before.
  21. From the army corps of engineers web site. Or how about the fact that water went from the docks to 200 feet out this week at Wilson hill and Ogdensburg hasnt changed at all. You think these pictures are fake? Lake Ontario is at 246 and holding and lake st. Lawrence should hit set minimum by the weekend. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  22. My point is if you look at it from all angles I honestly feel like it's been pretty equal. People from lake Ontario argue nature wouldnt have saved them if the dams werent there. They forget that same argument applies here. Have you ever looked at the lake ontario levels from before the seaway was built? Nature would have washed away their property 40 years ago without the seaway stabilizing lake levels. Long term health of the lake is impossible without natural shorelines and natural erosion. Armoring the entire shorline and eliminating natural seasonal flooding will slowly but surely turn this lake into an empty lifeless swimming pool. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  23. Over 10 thousand were already evacuated from thier homes during those 2 month time period. Dams were at risk of failing where things could have gotten way worse real quick. Levys did fail, it was a true state of emergency and not just water in the basement. To gain an inch on our end each week we would have had to bury them another food deeper and probably evacuate thousands more. Water flowed down neighborhood streets already, the costs of flooding them further would have probably been astronomical. But your right, we'd be 16 inches or so lower right now, theyd be rebuilding and maybe 2020 wouldnt look like another repeat, but how could anybody have known that in 2017 when it all started. That's a call I wouldnt want to have to make. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  24. So lake Ontario and the upper st. Lawrence is at 246 feet and holding and Lake st. Lawrence has gone from 243 feet to 235 feet this week but u want me to believe the difference is only 11"??? Did lake Ontario drop 8 feet too?? Can you see chimney shoal out of the water in Ogdensburg??[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  25. Lets expand that to not just include us again. People all around the great lakes have lost cottages, homes, hundreds of years of erosion. Over 10,000 people have been forced to evacuate there homes near montreal for months twice in the last 3 years. Increased currents below the dam have caused severe erosion. Businesses were forced to close along the fox river and green bay due to high water. Marinas on the west end of lake Erie were unusable much of 2019. Lighthouse cove on Lake st. Clair and St. Clair shores dealt with severe flooding repeatedly this summer due to the record high water levels that forced evacuations. Look up some of those videos, water actually flowed through the streets like rivers during every storm surge. The list is never ending and the stories from lake to lake all read the same. Yes we are suffering, but we are not alone and I honestly dont believe we've even had it the worst.
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