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  1. Another thing is that when water levels are low there isn't as much if any runoff from a body of water. A lot of what is on the surface or just below isn't being drained off. It is trapped and adding to the mix. Organic material is decomposing and feeding the bacteria. The water isn't being flushed. I see this in my pond especially this year as it is so low there is no runoff. The higher air and water temps along with additional sun light also feed the any plant life especially the algae. I tend to agree though that with little rain there is less agriculture and residential runoff which causes less chemicals and fertilizers being dumped into the lakes and ponds which may contribute to less plant growth in certain bodies of water.
  2. I have seen times over the years especially in the mid seventies when the sawbellys seemed to be gone from Keuka and under the lights at night all we saw were small perch 1 to 2 inches long. The lake would be absolutely full of them. They would slip right through the dip nets so it was hard to dip any for bait. Sawbellys were scarce to buy. The old fella in Hammonsport that we bought them from couldn't get them from the lake. The sawbellys we bought from Tony's bait shop in Bath were from Waneta lake as he couldn't get Keuka ones either. Sometimes he didn't have bellys so we would go to the bait shop on Waneta to get sawbellys. The lakers didn't seem to like the larger Waneta bellys as much and fishing was slow. Sometimes we would just buy shinners an hope to net a few bellys or perch. Either way we kept the Seth Green rigs full.
  3. I agree with Sk8man about how the lakers are in pockets more than other fish. With the Seth Green handline rigs we fished the Bluff, Snug Harbor, or just out from Clark's boat livery and would almost always find the lakers in these spots after June right into October. The fish were there and 10 and 12 puonders were not all that uncommon. Most were in the 5-7 lb. range. They were all down deep near the bottom of course and quite often rainbow would hit up high as they were chasing the sawbellies under the lights. We'd even get a brownie once in a while. The lakers seemed to be far and few though in other areas of the lake back then and drifting on calm nights proved that.
  4. My father, my uncle and myself used the hand line Seth Green rigs on Keuka, Canandaguia, Hemlock and Canadice back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. We used a home made adaptation to a Coleman lantern to get it out over the water with one on each side of the boat to attract sawbellies using white gas for fuel. Hand lines coming out of the wooden trays with screen bottoms like in the pics were stored 3 apiece in wooden boxes and went down with 7 leaders and sawbellies (5 for the shallower lakes). Anchored with enough rope to give the boat a good wide swing the Lakers, and the occasional Brown,Splake, Rainbow, or LL were in trouble. We'd dip sawbellies for bait if we needed more and in the midst of all those boats sometimes you would hear a Cherry Bomb go off in the water. (Maybe they forgot their dip net?). We used soup cans and later on plastic cups fastened together, filled with water and hung on the outside of the boat to put the sawbellies in as we pulled up the rigs. Usually the bottom two leaders were the most productive, but there were times when a Bass,Perch,Rocky or a hungry Pickeral would take one the higher ones. In Canadice on the south end the Bullheads would always hit the bottom ones and we would catch more of them than trout. It is a fun way to fish and spend the evening especially on a warm summer night but you needed a lot patience if those leaders and lines got tangled.
  5. We have always used the hand line version for the Finger Lakes. 10' leaders with 2 hooks each, spaced 10' apart on mono (7 total to keep under the 15 hook rule) attached to the green "cloth" topline. We have boxes that hold 3 drawers, one drawer per rig. The drawers have screen bottoms with the left side divided up into 7 or 8 compartments where the hooks and the sinker are placed to keep them out of the leaders and lines. Some of the guys always called them "Set Screen Rigs" which I think they got confused with the actual name Seth Green Rigs. The lines and leaders are coiled in the drawers. We always place an outdoor magazine on the lines to hold them down. It also gives us something to read on a slow night. Oh yeah we still go out at night with the home made lights hanging over the side. Not to many out there anymore on the Bluff or on Canadaguia at night. Used to be lots back in the the day. A regular party every Saturday night out there. We used to do real well on Canadice on the south end in 60' of water on the east side back in the 70's in the fall. Lakers, rainbows and a lot of bullheads too. Gotta give that a try again. Hemlock wasn't too bad either.
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