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alwysfishn

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  1. The state needs the money from licenses. That is why they open trout season during the spawn on April 1st and why they allow catch and release in most of the finger lakes for bass before the actual opening in June.
  2. I know years ago we would launch at the motel. The owner would charge us $2.00. Haven't been there in a few decades, though. Don't know if the motel is still even there. Also, if you were a resident of the town of Urbana, you could get a key to the gate and launch. My uncle had a key to get us in, but that was years ago. Don't know if this is still an option or not, or if launching is still permitted there.
  3. I have closed hooks like this with Vice-Grips before. Adjust them, so the jaws are just snug on the hook with the lever and handle almost together, and squeeze them. If the hook closes a little, release the lever, turn the screw a little and squeeze again. Repeat until the hook is closed. You have to take small "bites" utilizing the mechanical advantage of the Vice-Grips unless you're Superman or have really large hands.
  4. A Cherry bomb will stay lit under water because the gunpowder in the wick has an oxidizer in it. The gunpowder being the fuel, burns because it gets oxygen from the oxidizer. Once lit it will burn until it explodes in or out of the water. Of course they've been illegal since the mid '60s.
  5. The lights we used were special made for night fishing. The tank had a short piece of pipe straight out of the top then an elbow with about 2' of pipe then another elbow with the lantern attached. This got the light out away form the boat and with the tank in the boat it made it easy to pump it up when the light got dim. They had a large dome cover that directed the light down into the water. Not much light shined in the boat or any where else except into the water. This really helped to draw the bait up to net them, They were actually pretty close to the water when we had the wooden Penn Yan boats as they didn't sit too high out of the water. The propane lights were hung from home made rods shaped like a shepherds hook. We used flexible gas lines from the lights to the tank. Angle food cake pans were riveted to the original tops to direct the light downward into the water. And the Cherry bombs were not a wives tale, trust me. We would hear them quite a bit when there were a lot of boats on the water.
  6. My father, my uncle and myself used the hand line Seth Green rigs on Keuka, Canandaguia, Hemlock and Canadice. We used a home made adaptation to a Coleman lantern to get it out over the water with one on each side of the boat to attract saw bellies using white gas or Colman fuel. My dad and I later switched to propane lights. We have always used the hand line version for the Finger Lakes. 10' leaders with 2 hooks each, spaced 10' apart on mono) attached to the green "cloth" top line coming out of wood drawers stored 3 apiece in wooden boxes and went down with 7 leaders and saw bellies (5 for the shallower lakes). The drawers have screen bottoms with the left side divided up into 7 or 8 compartments where the hooks and the sinker are placed to keep them out of the leaders and lines. Some of the guys always called them "Set Screen Rigs" which I think they got confused with the actual name Seth Green Rigs. The lines and leaders are coiled in the drawers. We always place an outdoor magazine on the lines to hold them down. It also gave us something to read on a slow night. Anchored with enough rope to give the boat a good wide swing the Lakers, and the occasional Brown, Splake, Rainbow, or LL were in trouble. We used soup cans and later on plastic cups fastened together, filled with water and hung on the outside of the boat to put the saw bellies in as we pulled up the rigs. Like Ray 4852 said the Rainbows would raise hell with everything. When the line went slack you know you had one. They would jump right out of the water sometimes, and they liked to circle the boat wrapping up every ones lines and the anchor rope. Good times! We'd dip saw bellies for bait with a net like the one in the picture. Used to be lots of boats out there back in the the day. A regular party every Saturday night. Sometimes in the midst of all those boats you would hear a Cherry Bomb go off in the water. (Maybe they forgot their dip net?). No one out there anymore on the Bluff or on Canadaguia at night. Too bad.
  7. Another thing is that when water levels are low there isn't as much if any runoff from a body of water. A lot of what is on the surface or just below isn't being drained off. It is trapped and adding to the mix. Organic material is decomposing and feeding the bacteria. The water isn't being flushed. I see this in my pond especially this year as it is so low there is no runoff. The higher air and water temps along with additional sun light also feed the any plant life especially the algae. I tend to agree though that with little rain there is less agriculture and residential runoff which causes less chemicals and fertilizers being dumped into the lakes and ponds which may contribute to less plant growth in certain bodies of water.
  8. I have seen times over the years especially in the mid seventies when the sawbellys seemed to be gone from Keuka and under the lights at night all we saw were small perch 1 to 2 inches long. The lake would be absolutely full of them. They would slip right through the dip nets so it was hard to dip any for bait. Sawbellys were scarce to buy. The old fella in Hammonsport that we bought them from couldn't get them from the lake. The sawbellys we bought from Tony's bait shop in Bath were from Waneta lake as he couldn't get Keuka ones either. Sometimes he didn't have bellys so we would go to the bait shop on Waneta to get sawbellys. The lakers didn't seem to like the larger Waneta bellys as much and fishing was slow. Sometimes we would just buy shinners an hope to net a few bellys or perch. Either way we kept the Seth Green rigs full.
  9. I agree with Sk8man about how the lakers are in pockets more than other fish. With the Seth Green handline rigs we fished the Bluff, Snug Harbor, or just out from Clark's boat livery and would almost always find the lakers in these spots after June right into October. The fish were there and 10 and 12 puonders were not all that uncommon. Most were in the 5-7 lb. range. They were all down deep near the bottom of course and quite often rainbow would hit up high as they were chasing the sawbellies under the lights. We'd even get a brownie once in a while. The lakers seemed to be far and few though in other areas of the lake back then and drifting on calm nights proved that.
  10. My father, my uncle and myself used the hand line Seth Green rigs on Keuka, Canandaguia, Hemlock and Canadice back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. We used a home made adaptation to a Coleman lantern to get it out over the water with one on each side of the boat to attract sawbellies using white gas for fuel. Hand lines coming out of the wooden trays with screen bottoms like in the pics were stored 3 apiece in wooden boxes and went down with 7 leaders and sawbellies (5 for the shallower lakes). Anchored with enough rope to give the boat a good wide swing the Lakers, and the occasional Brown,Splake, Rainbow, or LL were in trouble. We'd dip sawbellies for bait if we needed more and in the midst of all those boats sometimes you would hear a Cherry Bomb go off in the water. (Maybe they forgot their dip net?). We used soup cans and later on plastic cups fastened together, filled with water and hung on the outside of the boat to put the sawbellies in as we pulled up the rigs. Usually the bottom two leaders were the most productive, but there were times when a Bass,Perch,Rocky or a hungry Pickeral would take one the higher ones. In Canadice on the south end the Bullheads would always hit the bottom ones and we would catch more of them than trout. It is a fun way to fish and spend the evening especially on a warm summer night but you needed a lot patience if those leaders and lines got tangled.
  11. We have always used the hand line version for the Finger Lakes. 10' leaders with 2 hooks each, spaced 10' apart on mono (7 total to keep under the 15 hook rule) attached to the green "cloth" topline. We have boxes that hold 3 drawers, one drawer per rig. The drawers have screen bottoms with the left side divided up into 7 or 8 compartments where the hooks and the sinker are placed to keep them out of the leaders and lines. Some of the guys always called them "Set Screen Rigs" which I think they got confused with the actual name Seth Green Rigs. The lines and leaders are coiled in the drawers. We always place an outdoor magazine on the lines to hold them down. It also gives us something to read on a slow night. Oh yeah we still go out at night with the home made lights hanging over the side. Not to many out there anymore on the Bluff or on Canadaguia at night. Used to be lots back in the the day. A regular party every Saturday night out there. We used to do real well on Canadice on the south end in 60' of water on the east side back in the 70's in the fall. Lakers, rainbows and a lot of bullheads too. Gotta give that a try again. Hemlock wasn't too bad either.
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