thanks guys. i knew i was going to get a reply like this.. ive had nothing but bad luck with copper. i dont like the large connections or swivel that needs to come through the guides, in my experience leadcore is much more forgiving and easier to work with, rig, fish than copper. i fish with a variety of guys with different skill levels and they dont always have the patience to deploy copper properly. leadcore seems to be a little more forgiving during a turn where copper seems to just fall out quickly which can cause tangles. these are just some of the things ive run into with copper. didnt really want to get into discussing copper pros and cons, just wanted some thoughts on long leadcores. i enjoy fishing leadcore and have lots of confidence in it. with that said i have a 200' and 300' copper sitting in the garage with plenty of dust on them. thanks, mark