GAMBLER

One of the guys from my marina was out yesterday morning and the 39 degree water was 45' down. I hope it is wrong.

This should screw things up for a couple of days! Check out the link below. http://www.coastwatch.msu.edu/ontario/o2.html

Congrats Jeremy and also to you Foster. Way to represent Sandy Creek! Is he sharing some of the winning with you?

Nice boat Jeremy.

CDS, Purchase Penn 345 GTI or Penn 340 GTI, a good rod (I purchased a 8' leadcore rod), one 300 yd spool of 50 lb. power pro and 30 lb. seagar florocarbon for the leader. You can go with a 200' copper for 40 - 45' down, 300' copper for 60 - 65' down, 400' copper for 80 -85' down, 500 copper for 100 - 105' down or a 600' copper for 110 - 115 down. A Penn 340 will hold 200' and 300' of copper,backing and leader. A Penn 345GTI will handle the rest of the combos. Attach the backing to the copper and the copper to the leader with the albright knot. Go to the At-tom-mik webiste and they have already spooled Penn reels (copper, backing, and leader) for a great price. Don't be shocked when you see the price of the set up. Copper is expensive to run. Run the copper off of plainer boards or tail gunning right off the back of the boat.

FISHINMAN, If you did not lose your probe in the first place, you would not have these problems :shock: :shock: :shock:

Don't be afraid to go back further than that. I run some of flies longer when the kings seem shy. I have had good luck with leads as long as 32".

I don't know about a minimum weight for eye's but they are not part of the Fall LOC. In the spring and the summer, all the eyes were over 8. I would think 8 would be the minimum for eyes.

The scale I have is different every time. I just measure them and figure out approx. weight and weight then in any ways. I always have people that eat them so they do not go to waste. Over the years you should be able to guess pretty close.

akitaone, I would go with 50 lb. on the power pro for backing with copper. A large king and all that weight in copper will put a lot of stretch on the 30 lb. backing.

Gander in Henrietta had them the other day when I was there. They had two sizes of Heartland dipsey rods. I think they were 9' and 10'.

landingzone, I'm not sure how much but it will not be worth it. You need a big reel like a Penn 340GTI or a Penn 345GTI or a Large Tekota.

Fishbandit, I think it depends on the port. Most of the time you will find the stagers on structure near the trib they are going to spawn in. For example, most of the Genny run kings are found off of Braddocks Point or Ship builders point. One is to the East and one to the West.

Keith, Always try to fish those marks at this time of the year. You never know, they could be staging kings.

The Sandy reports are for Sandy Creek in Hamlin.

Yankee troller, It is pretty funy how everytime Jax fished the Pro Am with you guys, you placed high and the times he was not you guys did not do that well? What does that tell us!

Copper achieves a greater depth with less line out. You can also fish a 600' copper that gets you down 115 - 120'. I just purchased a 300' copper rig and love it after 1 trip using it. The reels are expensive for copper but you only live once so you might as well spend because you can't take it with you.

Gambler will be out of Sandy Creek. Hopefully I will get out as much as I plan on getting out. Good luck everyone. I hope a member from this board is $20,000 richer after the derby.

Took Jax, his buddy and my neighbor out off the creek. Fished between the Nose and Watoma. Found the kings good between 100 - 120 fow. Ended the day 10 for 16. The biggest was 26 lbs. One was lost that was bigger on my new copper set up (I wont mention any name). It was the first time I ever tried copper and it was only in the water 5 minutes before it took off. We ended up taking 2 fish on the copper. The fish were from 60 - 90 down. It was definatally a flasher fly bite. 12 of the 16 hits came on flashers and flies. NBK was the only spoon that tooks hits.

Happy Birthday Ray! They say bad things come in threes (motor, tranny, and turning 50) so it should be over!

Thanks Fishtails. Ray, Let me guess, you are married or have been married a couple of times?

Pat, Thanks for the offer, that probally would have been a little cheeper! Ray, You crack me up. I tried to get her to go for something like that but she looked at me like I had 2 head on my shoulders. Fishinman, Thanks Tom. I think Jax is losing sleep worring about that banana. My wedding is at St. Theodores Church and the reception is at Deerfield Country Club. Thanks for the wedding present! The past couple of trips, you have left ALL the lakers, browns, cohos, steelhead, and kings for me to catch! :shock: I will need your address to send you a thank you card!

Just remember you pay for what you get. I'm a firm believer in that. That is why I have Cannons. Expensive but built to last.

Try callingn the region 8 office. They will give you an answer right away. Good luck.

Sponge, Hopefully you have better luck with Raymarine than I did. My autopilot has been back twice and both times they told me there is nothing wrong with it.