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It was a real purdy fish. I saw it while gassing up. Bob was pretty excited - he was on cloud nine. He took it the Salmon River hatchery and they confirmed it as a Coho. Not only a coho, but the new world record. It was so big, we all thought it was a king but the head looked a bit strange for a king, sort or pea soup green. This is Bob's last year chartering on Ontario but he will still be chartering on Champlain.

Mike: I sent you a PM. Drop down the the black border below the thread and click on "Private Messages" I'm always interested in helping a kid tie into his or her first king salmon (I'm assuming you are not 75 and your step son 55 )

Yellow Fever: Great! I'm glad to have helped you get addicted and to have provided you some technical assistence. Welcome to the LOAF group. I'm a LOAFer, you're a LOAFer, LOAFers we are all..... LOAF=Lake Ontario Addicted Fishermen

Fireplug: Sure sounds good. Codered: Yes, the nuke plant.

Had a good weekend, went 8 for 16 with about half on Saturday. Sunday was slow with only 2 lost fish. I ran 3 riggers and 1 dipsy on Friday and the single dipsy outdid the 3 DRs. Saturday and Sunday I went with 2 and 2. I started mupping my riggers and they woke up, surpassing the dipsies as the weekend progressed. The breakdown was as follows: •10 on dipsies and 6 on riggers. •All on flasher/flies. Spoons, J-plugs and bait were silent. •11 on chartreuse or green flasher & fly and 5 on white and white. •When the wire started to become silent, I put out a braid lite bite rig. This out produced the wire dipsy by 3 to 1. •Dipsies were set anywhere from 250 to 312. Wire on #2 and lite bite on #3 (4 oz weight and mag ring). •Fish were 20 to 27.5 pounds with 1 teen. •Bite started at 0620 and seemed to slow around 0900 on Friday and Saturday. Sunday's bite never really started for me. •Hooked into a real brute that turned towards Canada and never stopped. I couldn't feel any kicking or head jerks, just steady power as it went straight home until it bent the hook. It was likely one for the scales but I'll never know. Fished mostly off the South Dunes in 100 to 125 FOW with 115 being the best and the target. Best speed was 2.1. Most all hits came in 64 to 70 degrees. Tried Oswego one afternoon and went 2 for 3 in front of the break wall and twin stacks. The fish came in 170, 160 and 125 fow. I found 39 degree water down 70 feet. Did the buoy line Sunday afternoon with Breaktime but only did 1 hit in 70 fow. We were on a race track with most of the best charters from Oswego, Little Salmon and Salmon and watched rods bouncing all around us but we were missing something. Temps were around 70. Had great fun and will be back for 3 days this weekend.

See the following thread http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishin ... ht=cheater

Guys, I can admit when I'm wrong. I experimented with this heavily and it works well when using the DR to bring up the rig. My riggers hadn't been keeping up with the dipsies but once I started mupping the riggers they surpased the dipsies. I matched colors to present a bait school scenario. All hits came on the fly. Thanks Mark and Brian.

My pleasure Spike, glad to have helped. There was a great movie a few years ago titled "Pay It Forward". I'm just doing my part. This forum is a great asset to the anglers of Lake O. I've met some nice people as a result of this site. I have posted open seats for riders and to a man, each rider has been a great guy and each is welcome back on the Dapper Dan.

Spike: Try taping the mount yoke you made. All that bare steel radiates signal just like bare sections on the cable will cause signal loss and lessened depth. Wrap it with a self-adhering electrical tape or liquid electrical tape.

Shade: You can test this beside the boat as you set your slide diver in. You can also simulate this by running a flasher/fly off a ball just under the surface and watching the action as you increase the set back. Do many guys run flasher/flies off slide divers? I run spoons off mine and put the flashers/flies on regualar dipsies. Not faulting you Shade, just asking for input.

Jon's Little Salmon has them. I fished the 42 Second spoon last week but it needs an eye sticker. No hits.

All the way to the front.

I run a 400 copper off Church boards. It won't run on the starboard board but the port board works great. Both boards are set the same but the right just pulls strait back while the left shoots out and runs true. This is with spoons, not flasher/fly. I loop the power pro backing through the clip so it won't slide or pull out.

Consider Mexico Bay. The salmon will be stacking in shallower water soon. In front of Catfish Creek puts you on salmon while staying inside Paradise Bay which is sheltered from the west winds. Usually has much smaller seas.

I may have found the solution! We wear shorts because it's hot but that's what brings on the flies. I figured that a pant and shirt of a very light fabric could be cool enough to wear while also keeping the flies at bay. I purchased Columbia Bahama II shirts to test and they work great. They are extreamly cool. I got a short sleeve and several long sleeve shirts. First, I tried the short sleeve it was very comfy. Last weekend I tried the long sleeve and found it to be nearly as cool as the short sleeve. The wind cuts through these easily. Here's link to the shirts: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... 00018&rid= As for pants, I drove to a near by Cabelas (Being an hour from a Cabelas is a blessing and a curse) and bought a pair of light nylon fishing pants. They have zip off legs and drain holes in all the pockets. I wore these all last weekend and never got bit by a fly while remaining as cool as if wearing shorts and T-shirts. I had my wife hem them long so they bunch up around my ankles when sitting to keep the buggers away. I got soaked in a rain storm and my clothing was completely dry in less than 20 minutes. I coudn't find the pants on the Cabelas web site but they have a Cabelas Outdoors tag inside so they are a Cabelas branded item. Here's a picture of the clothing: Thants my 32# king from 8/10/08.

Fishtails: Yes, we should look into forming that posse. Gas is expensive and I'm frequently looking to fill seats to help with expenses, gernerate commaraderie, increase safety and share knowledge. Matter of fact, I have a post offering seats for this weekend. Local PA guys are a bonus because we can share the commute as well as the boat. We could even let those NJ guys join the posse if they are close to the Delaware. Your thoughts on the PA Posse? I like your trailer: Beg forgiveness, not permission. I live that way as a result of 23 years in the Marine Corps. Another apt one is: "Take life by the horns before it gores you"

Yes, and it comes with the unit.

Maybe we should all meet and form a fishing posse. Save gas on trips if nothing else.

Mexico Point State Launch is a great launch and it's fairly cetrally located on the prime fishing holes on the East end. It's off 104B about a mile south of the Rt 3 and 104B intersection. My first year in Mexico Bay but anywhere from Catfish Creek to North of Port Ontario (Salmon River) will put you on fish. Flies, J-plugs and bait (whole, cut or falsies) will do. Watch the fishing reports as your time grows near for depths, speeds and presentations.

Sticks Motel in Mexico. $55 a night for 2 double beds.

Friday was a miserable day, T-storms and waterspouts colluded to keep us off the water. Only got lines in the water for 2-3 hours. Saw 4 waterspout off Oswego about a mile from us. We pulled gear and ran into the Harbor and tied up at Wrights, made sandwiches and tended to some gear problems. Let the black clouds pass. 1 small 12" king on a greasy wing on a slide diver. 5# brown on a Stinger copper back glow gobi behind a 4/0 copper/silver dodger. Had another copper back glow gobi stolen off a cheater; never saw the hit and it didn't release. Saturday trolled all over from Oswego to the Nuke plant area from 90 feet to 500. Saw lots of marks but the only rod that fired was a 10" smallmouth. Sunday we started off Alcan and Oswego, 90 to 300 feet and again lots of marks but no hits. Made a big move to the Dunes and started seeing marks in 150. Put gear down, 1/2 set for browns and 1/2 set for kings. First hit was a 6# brown on a chartreuse/mtn dew/glow white Spin Dr pulling a Glow Hammer. My wife knocked it of the hook with the net. About 2 hours later, all h*ll broke loose. In about an hour and half, we had 5 salmon hits. Started with a small Coho off a DR on a killer dolphin. Didn't get the rod back down before the thumper fired on a major king. Battled with it for 15 minutes and several nice runs before it dropped the hook. This came on a green trashcan pulling a pro am fly. Before I could reset the thumper (the other rigger still out), a wire dipsy fires and starts running. This was the same chartreuse SD and glow hammer set back 250 on #2. These 3 came at 270 fow and so fast, I couldn't reset rods between fish. It's nice to end up with all but 1 rod back in the boat. I started a race track to run over the area again and was about 1/2 way back on the reciprocal when the other rigger fires. This was a green/silver/glow white pro troll chip pulling a hammer fly. 135/290. 15 minutes into my wife’s fight with a 10 # king, the thumper fires again and starts really screaming. The first run took 200 yards and only stopped when the reel locked on a buried wire. I thought that would be the end of the fish but it stopped and I gained some ground. It got pretty exciting with the 2 of us locked up as we were. My wife had her hands full with her 10# king and mine was a 45 minute tug of war. In the end, we got them both in the boat. My scale bounced between 33 and 34 pounds. We ran in and took it to the taxidermist where it was weighed at 32 strait up. This was a very chunky male. The kings are here! I got the pics developed: Here's the fish, it is 42 inches. Here's my first mate with the Dapper Dan behind us.

I witnessed 4 waterspouts out of Oswego on Friday the 8th. 2 were fully developed as in the link. I was out about 4 miles between Oswego and Alcan and the spouts seemed to be a mile farther out. Far too close for me. The cloud seemed fairly stationary which really surprised me. My wife and I decided it best to pull lines at our liesure rather that under duress. We ran into Wrights for lunch. It was ironic, I had just told my wife that morning about the waterspouts of the previous week. I said I had never witnessed a tornado or a waterspout and hoped to go to my grave saying that. 2 hours later, I witnessed 4 of them only a mile away from us. OK, let's see if this works: "I've never caught a 40# salmon and hope to go to my grave saying that". Heh, It's worth a try!

Hi. Where in PA are ya from? I'm from Riegelsville, just south of Easton. I need an occassional fishing buddy to fill in when my wife can't make the trip.

Let me better target my concern with tangles. I'm concerned with catching a fish on the cheater and having the cheater slide down to the flasher. Does the tension of the fish stop the flasher from spinning and ultimately tangling the snot out of the cheater?

Spike: I save the cheaters for spoon rigs only. F/F off rigger, dipsy or copper without cheaters. DR with a spoon and cheated with a spoon. It may ony be a bit of flouro but it takes time to clean up tangles and rerigg cheaters. If you have a large crew, that's a different story. I fish with a small crew and don't want to spend time untagling and retying cheaters. Your results may vary.