Well got in my stand at 4 15 tonight, had a bambi walk by me at 18 yards ,then about 5 30 had 2 tom s going at it, then hell broke lose 9 diffrent does coming out just at dark could nt get a shot off, it was to dark to places the pin for a shot so i had to wait till they all left the area to get down from my stand there time will come when a rage throught the cage will down at least 2 or more .