titherdick

Looking for 2 Penn 810 Rod Holders, please message me if you have and want to move. Thanks

Any idea of the dates for 1K a day? Thanks

I know Vince and Vince knows me and I have nothing but the higest respect for him. My comment was directed toward this mysterious super committee that seems to have their own agenda to what end I do not know.

If you keep the same format as last year, with no Amature Division, you will still be missing most of the Amature teams that sat on the sidelines last year because they didn't like the format. Wake up

Everybody pre-fishes, so for that reason a Friday-Saturday seems to make more sense. That leaves Sunday as a blow day, and makes for a much more socialable weigh-in on Saturday. Most teams would be able to stay for the Ceremonies.

If somebody wants to fish for Mud Chickens, they should be able to do so. They are welcome to all the fun and prizes that go with that Division. It leaves more room for Salmon fisherman on the Bar.

My friend Bill Heller and I have fished Lake Ontario since 1985. We fished the ESLO, Pro- Ams, and just about any other tournament that was offered. We started out as Team Outcast, then Trophy Teasers, and more recently as Dodger/Outcast with Jim Skolny. The Pro-Ams were best back in the beginning, when they were only held in Niagara County. We fished in the late 80's and early 90's and even though we didn't fare well back then, we always had a great time. The Pro-am started to go down hill when the rules started to get changed almost ever year. We never knew exactly what kind of Tournament we would be getting into. Last year was the final straw for us, when the Amature division was all but eliminated. Here are some of the rules we liked. We would hope that some of these suggestions might be considered. Thanks 1)Closed communication. (Prevented large groups from stacking the odds) 2)Mandatory observers. (Prevents cheating) 3)Same fishing time for Pros and Amatures. (With staggered starting times for safety) 4)Two Divisions. (Three with Open division) 5)Eliminate set time for being back to pier head. (Caused unsafe rush to port) Just set a time to be in line for weigh-in. 6)Allow culling in the spring and no culling in the summer. (not too important) 7)Set limits of ( 3 for Open), (6 or 9 for Amatures), (12 for Pros) Have fishing start and end times controlled by Observers and/or Radio announcements by the Committee.(Can't erase smile) 9)Keep GPS tracking of catch. 10)Have bonus Lake Trout in limit. 11)Have Friday and Sat. as Tournament days. Made for a much better Weigh-in and time for teams to socialize.

We use the 10' talora RG rods, with tekota 600lc reels, and like them. The longer rods help clear our side riggers better. Since we have a small boat, every little bit of clearance helps. We usually only fish 2 dipsys, so the extra cost of this set-up is easier to bear. You can get some deals on these rods and reels on e-bay, if you look hard enough. Good Luck

We use a 9.9 Yamaha on a 20 ft Grady White and it works great, using about a quart of gas per hour. However with high winds and waves, a 15 hp would probably be better. Plus, with the lower rpms the 15 would not have to work as hard, and if you need it to get home, it would get you there faster. Make sure you get a high thrust prop. Good Luck

Just to add to the last post. We modified the flies with a tournament tie hook set-up and a small e-chip between the treble and octopus hooks. Had very few that did not get hooked up.

We used luhr jensen flash flies last fall during the LOC with 11" green glow Hot Spot flashers. Green pickle was the fly used. Down 140' right on the bottom. Boat speed was real slow, just fast enough to rotate the flasher. Caught three or four nice Kings each trip. Leader lenght was 30". Great fly, that combines both flashabou and squid materials. Worth a serious try.

Why don't one of you "Experts" help this guy out with a straight answer. There are plenty of fish in the river and on the Bar for everybody.

What do you call a ProAm with out amatures?