rolmops

replacing copper with weighted steel wire line Today,at the Niagara Fishing Expo I bought a 300 foot length of the weighted steel wire line. I love the way you can just throw it on the ground in a heap and not get a birds nest. not on the ground and not on the reel.It is great stuff. According to the torpedo people you can use the 200 or 300 foot of 46 pound test wire in combination with their regular 20 or 30 pound wire and the sinking rate will remain the same as copper. I plan to load a reel with a 1000 foot of thirty pound and on top of that add the 300 feet of of weighted wire.I want to use just one or two setups like this (one for each side) with the possibility of running it at different lengths instead of having six copper rods with different length lines. For now,the reel I,m going to use is a Penn 340 or 345 levelwind without a line counter. This means that I will have to mark the thirty pound test with a color code mark every 50 or 100 feet (different colors each time). Do you have any good ideas about how to effectively get color on a steel wire line and make it stick? Or which reel with a line counter would you suggest to hold this entire 1000 +300 + mono length of line? Also,does anybody have experience with a line counter sitting on the rod? Thanks for any suggestions and opinions. Rolmops.

Ah, the 0ttawa river. I remember kayaking it near Algonquin park. Then in the evening dining on local pickerel which turned to be the Canadian name for walleye. What a beautiful place. It is truly a treasure to be able to come to such beauty. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

I do not think that it ran its course, it just does not fit in with the new commercial setup.Maybe a return to the 4H building in Lockport for a flea market meet is needed

There will be an Elosta swap in March

Now that will create serious air pollution and you might be responsible for increased global warming

Let's stop about a soft winter. According to Murphy's laws we are prone to get the opposite of what we want and Murphy was an optimist.

That does not sound like any DEC officer that I ever encountered. Maybe he was just having a very bad day.

I saw it too. My local pair of ravens are just about done building their nest. That is about 2 or 3 weeks ahead of the usual time.

In early spring the survival rate is very high because of the water temperature and most charter boat captains take care not to destroy their reputation by carelessly killing the lakers. But still it is very hard on the lakers. The reproduction succes of chinooks can vary wildly. They average 5000 eggs per female. Let's say that 5000 wild fish spawn and 1% to 5 % survives to come back and spawn .Do the math and you will see that numbers vary wildly. These survival numbers are optimistic but for calculation purposes they are useful. Even in the Alaskan rivers with their huge numbers of spawning fish there are boom and bust years.

I did not have the dough to even buy the extra reels. Things are better now, I use otter boats and my leadcore is farther off to the side. I have 8 leadcore rods of all different lengths on my boat and I always run them off the boards. four or six at a time. It is a lot more work and truth be told. I am not at all sure that I catch any more than with the two rods I used on my 16 footer. It does not matter, I go out for the meditation of fishing not for the catching.

Pap , I agree that 5 colors will sink more when they are farther away from the boat,but not by much, it has just too much water resistance to go much deeper without additional weight in the water.. Leadcore sinking rate is measured with the color just at the surface or just under it. It will not be horizontal unless you pick up a lot of speed.the reason why I used the 30 foot lengths of mono is because I found out that leadcore and clips do not mix, So I clip the line on the mono.But the moment the core hits the water it will start sinking and I do believe that the 7 colors will reach the 35 foot although it will be a tiny bit less because of the mono resistance in the water. The length of the mono was decided by the distance that the boards were away from the boat. I learned all these things the hard way in my first boat ,a 1957 Herters 16 footer with a 1957 35 horse Johnson. These boats did not have a lot of space in them,but I think that I loved that boat more than any of the others that came after it.

I used much the same system that you propose in Keuka Lake. I had 27 pound leadcore line interspersed with 30 foot mono sections. I used 27 pound test because it has many more grains of lead ( that is how the lead is measured) and it will sink faster than the 12 pound stuff. having only one or two leadcore rods on board is much easier to deal with on a small boat. On Keuka lake you can very successfully fish with leadcore and live bait going at different speeds to regulate your depth. On the way back in you can use the leftover sawbellies to troll along the weed beds over about 20 feet of water at 14 feet. You will add pike to your creel.

Compound interest? Maybe in a bank with all other things being equal which is the main requirement for building proper statistics. The last two harsh winters were exceptional because of the almost complete ice coverage of the lake and the very cold water coming out of lake Erie deep into May. Two year classes of shad are absent because of it. The Zebra is old news,Now it is joined by the quaqua mussel which thrives in much deeper water than the zebra ever did. Lakers are targeted by charter boats and others when there is no other fish around and the clients want to take fish home. Of the ones that are released many are fatally damaged because they were hauled up a long way out of deep and cold water and the pressure difference makes it hard for them to survive, besides they grow very slowly and are very easy to catch. The answers you are trying to find are not available because there too many variables and because of that ,it is impossible to make proper predictions or conclusions

That seems to be logical, but it does not take in account the last two brutal winters that were very destructive to the shad which are the main food source of the fish you mentioned above. In addition,the seasons of 4 and 5 years ago were well above average which made you start at the high end of the scale. Also, the amount of fish that were stocked remained the same, which makes a big dent in your reverse pyramid theory. The main reason for the irregularity in numbers at least for these two years is the harsh winter weather. My guess is that the coming season will see some improvement, but still not what it can be mostly because we miss 2 year classes of shad which puts a dent in the food supply. Now we can also talk about the damage that is wrought by the immense filtering capabilities of the invasive mussel species, which are taking the base out from under the food pyramid. That is just a few reasons for the poor fishing. Lake trout is probably the big victim of human fishery because they take a very long time to grow to respectable size and they have been targeted heavily because the other fish are not so easily found. I am sure that there are a lot more reason that I do not understand,but blaming the state of the fishing in our lake on sports fishing is giving way too much credit to all the fishing public including the charters.

Which river? The one that is deep and wide, we'll meet on the other side.

This question is almost impossible to answer because there are too many factors that change from year to year. One of the very few things that we do know is that the stocked fry that has been kept in pens during their smolt usually have a far higher survival rate ,probably because they were not targeted for the few weeks they spent in a pen and also because their size increased while in the pens. The only counting that is done is by the DEC. Steve Le Pen (a DEC official) usually comes around to the different towns once a year with information about the very questions that you are asking.