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damn wish i saw this sooner thats a great deal on the planer mast i'll get in line for it but i have a feeling it wont fall through all of you

i have a 14' starcraft and am anxious to get out this year. lake o and watkins glenn are about the same drive for me Lake o will likely be to rough with a southwest wind like there calling for keep watkins fishable for a small boat? and can i get away with stopping at severn its a shorter drive for me I just dont know if the fish are that far north this early in the year. I've only fished seneca the last couple of years so i have a lot to learn.

i fish a 14' starcraft. watch the weather and the marine forcast closely for lake O. I fish spring browns and fall kings only as I am not comfortable to far off shore. The fingerlakes are a great alternative for trolling trout and salmon but the best advice I can give you is have a backup plan. I always have the panfish and bass poles in the car and always launch from a bay or river so if the forcast is off I didnt waste the trip. and in this area with rivers and canals I can almost always get out somewhere no matter how windy which helps with the limited days I have to go.

yes there are locks on the canal from the oswego but there are locks coming in from erie as well a ski could eventually get through them though I would suspect it does not happen often. the thing is from that side its in the seneca river which is not drained so a pure could live in the river system for years before actully getting to the lake. on a side my buddy caught a 20" juvie ski on the lower genney while walleye fishing two years ago I didnt post earlier because I wasnt 100% sure of my memory so I had to go back and confirm it. there was a pic but I dont have it on my comp to post it. tells me there is some reproducing populaton in lake O around rochester though not near the concentration as there is in other places on the lake like the st.lawrence area for example. I saw an article a few years back in infisherman about a guide who did a lot of open water trolling for them in the great lakes and caught some monsters. fished temp and bait structure to find them.

it could have gotten to seneca from lake O through the canal at oswego I would say that is more likely as part of the canal system in that area is the seneca river and is not drained also that is much closer to the 1000 islands area which definatly has a lot of ski in it. without having seen the pic of the seneca one I would say its also possible it was a tiger they are stocked in cross and from there its not a super long way up river to seneca personaly i have caught one pure in my life and that was while pike fishing on lake nissipping in canada and the fish was 12 inches long. i dont target them as there are no good lakes within my normal driving range.

I think seneca has enough of a variety of forage interesting that there are already some there mabey some stocking to boost the population is in order. as far as ontario goes I think there are a lot more in there than people know other than the st lawrence not may places get targeted but i know of many that have been caught in research nets and there are a few guids that work the great lakes its a fishery that requires a lot of learning and paitence but it has some monsters in it. I heard of one that would have been a record that was caught during an electro fishing study for browns in the spring off of sandy creek several years back but never did find confirmation so that may just be a rumor.

as far as being self sufficent our current natural gas supply exceeds the current demand with no more drilling sites economiclly this is the worst time to sell land for a new well. As i've said repeatedly lets wait and let the technology develop where its already being used so when the price goes back up it will be a lot safer in ny as far as using gas for my boat I would love to switch to an electric engine maybe if there wasnt so much oil being drilled there would be incentive to pursue that technology. there may be wells that are not near drilling that burn however the point your missing is there are wells that used to supply drinking water that never burned that now have eternal flames from fraking and are contaminated to a level where they are poisnous. no one can say what chemicals are being used because the gas companys wont tell us they are claiming its proprietary information and they all have a unique formula which they wont divulge. Do you really trust an energy company to do anything other than maximize there profit inpite of negative effects. yes they pump it below the aquafer but fracking means to break and shatter the shale dont you think this might light the fluid move up through the newley created cracks. and yes there are other sources of pollution out there but that is no reason to create a new one thats like saying fish are already caught by recreational anglers so lets let in unregulated commercial fishing. solar power is undeveloped? so lets use the money to develop it not mine gas no wind on the lake lets put it on land where it makes more sense nuclear power? actully a lot cleaner than people give it credit for. there is also geo-thermal which does exist and has a lot of potential. I'm only saying lets take all profit out of this equation and then re-evaluate it for what it is and I say that it demands caution and study and at this point there is no reason to rush.

I like the seneca idea that lake has a lot of fish but on any given day they can be hard to catch the more options in there the better and that lake has the potential with food and cold water for long live and maybe eventuall record class fish (would take a while). I fish that lake a little more each year as it is close and my boat is a little small for lake O Ive had some days that turned into bonazas for pike or for LL or lakers but i've been skunked more than other places to so another option would be nice I could see running a trolling spread for trout LL and pures could be fun to see whats the best option for the day.

I dont care how its pipped in or what the shafts are made of they are pumping toxic chemicals into the earth. WTF how can anyone think this is okay and by the by they have resivours for the fluid because the toxic chemicals spend time at the surface which answers your runoff concerns

i'm not looking to start an argument but research suggest the small mouth numbers are not reduced signifigantly because of gobies. the size is up it the fishing for them has changed dramaticlly but they are still there

going today instead but going to seneca the wave report i saw was pretty rough with a pretty decent south wind

After last trips trouble I decided to put the trolling gear to the side and went to conesus for pike it was slow guess I should have gone to the lake oh well my boat stays ready untill the roads are not good for towing so maybe next time [ Post made via Android ]

split shot, part of the point I am trying to make is this is being done elsewhare lets let those sites serve as the test sites and only after theyve been proven long term safe and that means more than a couple years if they pass that test than lets visit opening up more ground and you say those are fresh water pools with no leakage into it? my challange stands go get a drink from one. water supplys have been destroyed by this process and there will be worse effects down the line this is not someting to get in on the ground floor on. Gill-T is also right the gas will be there but the value of it will go up tremendously as time goes on the time is to early this is a bad band wagon to be on.

alright roads traffic and money aside lets break it down to the basics there are taking chemicals that are toxic carcinigenic in some cases flamable and by no means edable and pumping them into the ground. Really you honestly think for a second that theres no possible risk? the smart way would be to wait there not gonna pass on new york forever right now theres lots of drill sites so the good areas are cheap as time goes on and other areas are mined out the value is gonna go way up and the longer it takes to start in NY the more will be known about bad side effects and the potential for safer methods goes up. Getting in to this this early is a bad idea i dare anyone who says drill baby drill to go to one of the resivours at the drill site than take a drink if you wont than how can you say that having that big pool of not safe not clean liquid isnt a problem

im new to seneca have only fish it a few times but if you find bait work that area has worked for me and the standby color so far has been green both spoons and dodger fly. I wish I could help more but thats all I got so far

the lower genesse can produce to but the better areas have no good shore access that being said I have had some great catfish days in front of the power plant on the seth green side espiciallly drifting worms under a float to avoid snags. The cats leave no doubt when they hit. that whole area you can access along seth green can produce cats and other fish such as sheepshead walleye and some bass but the neiborhood its in sucks the walk is a pain and its a drive for you mays point is closer and has better access and more consistant fishing also my biggest sheepshead ever came from mays. I only fish the genny from the boat these days when I got the kids I still go to mays or a similar place on the way there you will pass an access and boat launch by montezuma you can fish there and it does produce some fish will get crowded during bullhead season. you can also fish mudlocks where you can access the canal the river or the lake and on any given day theres lots to be caught around there though for cats I still recomend the river I always do better when theres some current and log jams always hold fish. I moved to geneva several years back and spent a lot of time researching fishing access at the time I did not have a boat. If you need some directions PM me I can help you out.

If your in geneva take the drive up to mays point I take the kids there to catch catfish with 4 rods its tough to go more than 5 mind without a bite use any commercial catfish bait and fish the current from the bridge down lots of fish to 5lbs to keep you busy and there are many big ones in there as well to make it exciting [ Post made via Android ]

i run a 14' starcraft so if I fart to hard it turns when setting up I have to go with the wind fortunatly I can reach the wheel and the rods from the same spot so I just go back and forth I set the riggers up first because I will turn a right angle when I lean out to set the release if It takes more than a split second. I do pull my bucket though because I run one off the side and it will pull me in a circle. My beam is less than 6' so trolling alone is always entertaining so i dont do it in a crowd unless i'm running flatlines only but hey when its the only time you can get out you gotta do what you gotta do

the best part of fishing solo is trying to land a fish with two other lines in especially in a small boat. throw in some boat traffic and you got yourself a full day. now that I can run three rods and find a pattern that works quicker I like fishing alone a lot more

i'm with rocketman there is a lot to be said for the release tighten it up a bit and your hookups will increase.

So my bro had babysitter problems and couldnt come with me so instead of him and my nephew I was alone. went out of severn and had a decent day 3 fish on 5 hits all LL over 20" I was pretty pleased considering I couldnt troll against them because I couldnt leave the wheel long enough to set a rod and with them was only marginally better. was fun though the firstone jumped over the net and went under the boat and all hell broke loose after that. 3 rods on my own on a rough day I'm amazed i didnt have more tangles. sorry i'm so excited over them I just started trolling for trout and such last year so I'm pretty new to it

dude if your that unsure pick up the reg book when you get your license I read it every year and the regs around spawning season are the most complicated of the whole book. again each river or stream has general regs and than special regs for certian sections of certian rivers. as far as the egg sinker and rapala I dont think there is enough current in the mouth where you said you wanted to fish though maybe I say try it. I know this time of year if you get upwellings of cold water right off of harbor mouths swim baits on spinning gear can be deadly but you gotta find the pockets. and again if your down stream of the last bridge than you can definatly try the rapala if not check the regs for the spot your fishing sometimes floating lures are okay you may just have to remove one hook.

cool thank you than severn it is my bro wants me to take the boat to lake O but with the scattered t storms there calling for I dont like being that far off shore in my little boat plus I seem to have better luck in the fingers anyway. see you out there sunday

location matters in the lake those hook regs do not apply they are for the first bridge upstream to the first barrier and only apply during spawning season I forget the exact dates because they rarly apply to me because I usually drift size 10 hooks with eggs under a float or 1/16oz or smaller hair jigs under a float for trout and salmon just because thats the way I like to do it something about seeing the float dissapear. also a lot of tribs have special regs for certian sections so check but if your in the lake or downstream of the last bridge your good with any type of jig more or less though i dont think you can get away with calling a snag hook a jig

I'm throwing a line out for some help. I have the green light to take the boat out this weekend and the money for gas and everything. I'm gonna fish seneca and would like to fish somewhere in the southern half. I usually launch from geneva and fish the north end because thats closest. All I ever do there is lake trout so i wanted to try another area just because I can. I was planning on launching at severn but I was trying to look it up online and saw somewhare that it only has parking for 12 cars is this true? that I can find there are not any other launches close on that side of the lake. I will likely have my 12 year old nephew with me and would hate for him to see me start swearing because theres no parking. does that lot usually fill up fast or am I okay. I guess with what limited knowledge I have of the area the backup would be to go to lodi point its just a longer drive for me because I'm coming from the west but its only about 10 mins longer as I am starting from the north end. is it worth the drive to lodi or is severn fine and if severne is fine what is the launch fee so I bring enough cash. Thank you in advance for any help. I'll take any free fishing advice if you wanna help a 12 year old get his first LL or bow (something that jumps). but my biggest concern is boat launches in unfamiliar areas. I have had issues in the past though my boat is small enough that I can lauch on just about anything.