freebird18

What depths were you in. Did you attempt anything around the Red Barn. Thinking of getting one last dance. Thanks, you did have a great season.

I'll get you a pic shortly. I have my boat at a friends house up on Lake O. Should be there tomorrow for some cleaning and I have to install a new battery. Check back tomorrow evening.

Skywatcher, I always fish them behind a Flasher. Larger when deep, smaller behind a dipsey Leader length when using a dipsey I extend to 36"and shorten the lead between Dipsey and paddle to 30. For some odd reason, I have had more success when using a Dipsey painted all black. One thing about these baits is bigger kings do a job on the paint job. I spray them with a clear coat and that protects them much better. I have also used them in the Finger lakes and they have produced as well there for Lakers. One thing My friend from Washington suggested to me, remove the sponge on the inside and do not over fill the cavity. That sponge gets a bad odor to it over time and it most likely turns off fish. I have been doing this now consistently and IT DOES WORK. Best to you, good fishing.

Breaking Bass, I have been fishing these Brads super baits for about 5 years now. Have a friend from Washington state who fishes on the Columbia river for Kings who brought me several. I fill them with Sardines in Oil. Much better than tuna. I shortened the leader behind flasher to 32" inches and upped the test to 30lbs. My best to date has been the Blue Hawaiian, Mountain Due is also been very productive. When fishing deep, I like a larger 11" flasher and smaller when using a Dipsey. I have caught a lot of stealies on the longer version in florescent red. I troll them slower between 1.8 and 2,2. I like them as I find is just as effective as meat, but a whole lot less expensive. Length behind rigger ball 18 -22 ft. Good luck, Tight lines.

Appreciate the response. Deepest I dropped it to was 110. I did get speed indicated, but no temp.

Just short note, went out of Wilson.

Got out for a couple of hours late Thursday afternoon. Boaters at dock said 220 - 260 . Didn't see a damm thing out there. Went out to 300- 320 and started marking some fish. Temp down 85 was 43. Probe went blank, Sub Troll ) not sure why, any suggestions would be appreciated. That said, switched to a lighter line rod( 14 lb) and got bit. #3 Kings in about 40 minutes before I had to leave. Biggest was 26 lbs. Scary trying to land one that size alone in the boat. Got all 3 on Brads Super Bait with sardine stuffed. Short bite, but sweet for first time out this year. Also, no one I have spoken to in last 10 days has gotten any Walleye east of the Cat. Went to Sturgeon last Tuesday and not a single boat in parking lot. That says it all.

Gentleman, for those of you who venture up to Lake Erie for a change of pace and enjoy our fabulous walleye fishing. The Town Supervisor for the town of Evans has just announced that the town WILL NOT DREDGE the entrance and it will remain closed for the season. This Marina has been badly managed for years. Seems like anything run by municipalities just cant get things done right. Town of Hamburg golf coarse still closed while several private coarse's nearby are open. I love New York. Better get another slogan.

Pllain and Simple, fully understandable business cost could rise 100% over a 17 yeaar period, and no doubt fishing is no cheap date. In just a few years 15$ went to 25$ went to 40$, Added up thats 120% increase. Not my intention to raise hell, just putting out some info that is factually correct As for my luck in business, no such thing for me, I simply pay close attention to competition and there price schedules. I simply know when potential clients are affected by cost and what questions to ask. Best time to introduce my company. Alot of responces, but no one yet can address the high % cost increase in such a short duration. In 17 years of business, have you ever seen that level of increase, that quickly, I haven"t. Even the IRS aint that bad.

Mr. Chaos, I put two kids thru college the past five years, 1 at Canisius, 1 at Hilbert. Defineltly was"nt CHEAP. The definition in a dictionary for the word GOUGE. READS : To exact exorbitantly " TO Swindle. Consider yourself fortunate that a 60% increase in cost is no issue for you. But I am certain for a lot of folks here New York, especially those on a fixed incomes, or those who have suffered a job loss, or have been burdened by rising Health costs. It is an issue. While highliting this increase, I am mindful of those who have been dealt these difficult circumstances. Do you suppose Charter Captains could increase there cost by 60%, how about Marina operators?. I have been successful in business on my own for several years now, I continue to grow and acquire more clientel each year. I doudt if that would happen if I myself just randomley raised my cost at that percentage. For that matter any other busines as well. No matter how big or small the amount, cost increases altimately reflect the RESPECT that you have for your clients. They understand that cost inevitably rise for a whole host of reasons. On PRINCIPAL I do not ever support efforts to swindle others, no matter how big or small. Its all the same. Gouging: look it up.

Whatever prize mony you win in any tournament, you add to your overall income. You are then TAXED at that rate, so add 25K to your earnings and pay the tax, your win wont feel like much then. I spoke with a past winner of the now defunc ESLO, back in the day when the grand prize was that beautiful GRADY WHITE. Those were ther days gentleman. His win turned into a nightmare as he had to pay out taxes on the total and in addition, split with team members. Never fished a toury again. I would"nt go that far. I just feel that a ( 60% ) increase in cost for anything is gouging. Consider adding 60% to any of your purchases today. Consider ( 1 ) purchase you made a year ago that went up by ( 60% )today. No business could obsorb that high a percentage increase and survive. As far as odds in winning the lottery, I could win a heck of o lot more mony as well. Current Lottery 33 Million. If win, I"ll pay for every LOU member to celebrate as I appreciate all the benefits I have recieved from this web-site. Good luck to those fishing, hope you have good water and the reels are singing.

Went fishing to Lake O last week and while at dock learned from another boater that the LOC Derby had a significant increase in there entrance fee. Speaking with additional fisherman, several expressed there decision to not enter this fall tournament as a result. I spoke with my tourny members who fish each fall and we also decided to not enter as well. This represents an additional ( 60 % ) to entrance fee over last year. I cant recall much of anything with a cost increase at that rate. granted 15$ is not a lot of money, but feel LOC is taking Salmon Anglers for SUCKERS. A charter Captain present mentioned he could not get his clients to enter as they had in last years tourny, 40$ to get in and 20$ for the day to a trip adds up fast. Just want to know if any LOU members have given thought to not fish this year for same reason. I have seen dwindling numbers of anglers on Lake O for a long time now. During the week fishing out of Wilson last fall, I noticed the fewest boats ever during a tournament. Have"nt fished out of the OAK in several years, wondering if anyone noticed the decline at other ports you may have fished. I feel that if we cant reverse this trend, our fishery will be neglected ( as it has been in the past by elected officials as they feel its not worth spending $ to maintain the fishery. The tournaments are one way of enabling this fishery to be exposed to potential future anglers. Consider the number of Captains who no longer operate charters. The decision by LOC officials to raise entrance fees by a whopping (60 %) is a bad one. It will only hasten the decline in exposure to our fishery, and will have a negative impact for years to come. Any thoughts or opinions from LOU members. If you agree, send an email to LOC and voice your thoughts. Thanks guys for your imput.