greenhornet73

Sorry I take that back, I thought this was the MVP Plug thread

Only being able to run 2 lures at a time out of my kayak had me trying everything I had and only 1 lure scored for me and it scored a hat trick one morning in September. Metallic green Hot n Tot without rattles

sliders or paddle tailed worms about 2" long on a 1/16 oz jig head. color depends on the day. white or green works best for me.

This time of year it's hard to beat minnows under a float but small plastics on the edge of a weed line can be killer.

I never really understood the reason to keep lake trout in the first place? It keeps customers happy to catch and bring home fish but honestly aren't they awful to eat? I never have tried them smoked but everything else I have tried has failed. If anyone wants to share a good recipe let me know and I will start fishing them again in the finger lakes.

4 year old fish, that's what I'm talking about! I don't know enough about how to make that happen but if the DEC can solve that one it would be awesome. Therefore, I like the theory.

I thought the fish responded to water temps to determine when to spawn? If that were the case then wouldn't Alaskan salmon genetics not be affected by our later spawning season? I do understand the philosophy that Lake Ontario salmon have evolved over the years to survive in their current environment where a new strain may fail here but I don't necessarily agree with the water temp issue. Would like to see them grow a little bigger though like we used to see 'em. I haven't caught a 30#er in 5 years or better. Maybe throw a batch in here and there and see what happens rather than putting all the eggs in one basket?

i trolled from selkirk to the SR and back 3 times sunday from 40' to 13' and didnt get a hit or see any jumps the whole morning.

Cool thanks. I have a NK magnum spoon in Natural born killer I was thinking of running behind a green jet diver on 1 rod and maybe a hot color hot shot 35 straight lined on the other rod to start with at least. I have a fish finder on the kayak so I will have to see what depth I'm getting the most marks at and go from there.

I would love to get a salmon out of my kayak this season. i hope the wind is down on sunday so i can try. are hot shot 35s too small or should i troll with something bigger? this is my first year trolling for salmon and still learning.

i fished the mouth of grindstone last night a little with no luck. could have actually taken the kayak since i have been in much worse with no problem

Scratch that plan, 14mph winds tomorrow and unless it slows down to half that by late afternoon I will be forced to fish from the pier.

Awesome, weather permitting I will be out there in my kayak tomorrow afternoon hoping to get a rod to fire. How far down do I need to get my lures? I have a jet diver 40 to run a spoon and probably will run a plug on the other rod.

hoping to try out there or selkirk tomorrow in my kayak. Have to check the weather/ wind report and see if it's a possibility. Thanks for the report.

Wow nice job. I have been blanked my last 3 trips out with 2 morning trips and a dusk trip this past monday. Marked a ton of fish along the drop- offs along the East shore from 38'- 44' but haven't had a single hit trolling about 2.5- 3 mph gps speed. Looks like sunday I'll have to push out a little deeper. One thing I do know about this lake is to be persistent even if you have a bunch of slow outings. I am running a 6' leader of 15# fluoro- coated P Line off of braided main line but can't see the fish being line shy with the water being the color it is? I was complaining about only smallmouths a few weeks ago and now would gladly hook up with them all morning long!

Good info, at least I know I was on the right track just not getting them to bite. I have been completely guessing with my paddling speed but just sold both my fish finders last night on ebay so I can order a Lowrance Mark 4 Chirp that will take the guesswork out for me at least. Good luck over the weekend, I'll probably be fishing along shore on Sunday since my kayak is electronicless for now. Tuesday morning I trolled the South West and East shores and straight up the deep hole at the southern end with nothing but 2 large rock bass to show for it.

Nice, that was just last week? Was it a tiger or a purebred?

Wow 20 minutes is impressive to say the least! Great fish to catch whether they are 30" or 50" but the rarity of the catch is what makes them such a prize. I still think if I got one that big I would have a fiberglass replica made and let it go considering how old a purebred like that must be, I'm guessing 25 y/o? Maybe 20 for a tiger since hybrids grow faster?

Does anyone know what depth the thermocline is set up on otisco lately? I am marking most fish at 10' and a few 30' down over 40'-50' but not sure how well my old fish finder is working since it was also marking a pretty steady line at 10' down for very long stretches. Could have been bait but isn't that usually the reason for fishing the thermocline since that is where the water temp break is?

I personally agree with the 40" limit. In my opinion the only reason to keep one of these fish would be for a wall mount since they are not much for table fare. I caught a 46" purebred muskie in Ontario, Canada a few years ago and released it since it wasn't 50" and that is still my goal to this day and may likely never reach it but that's what keeps me going back!

I know it, it was so close to 40". Been doing pretty well this year for my first year with the kayak but still haven't gotten any walleyes trolling there yet. Was that you out by Lader's Sunday morning around 6:30 AM? There was a nice rig out there trolling and I thought it might be you. If it was, that was me doing the one handed paddle to shore with the muskie in my net hung over the side haha. I love the looks of that area but never have been able to fish it until this year. Would probably be a good ice fishing spot if I could figure out how to get over there without hiking across the lake.