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Oh sorry about that Ray here's my post for the derby. The first day I sat on the bank mwing grass and P&M that I didn't have someone to fish with. The second day was much of the same but grass was done so I think I did my P&M in front of the T.V. or on the deck. Hoot did make my day when he stopped by and asked me to weight his pike and take a picture for him. The thrid day was easy cause I knew them guys was done around noonish. Well that's about it I'll have the report for today done soon. With your spoon deal I did two fish less than 50' today and had a good rip on three colors of core with a small spoon. For your infomation I get a good belly laugh out of your "shallow humor". So I say bring it on I can take it as well as I can dish it out....

muskybob, :?: Some thing wrong with my reports ????

Wow I was just checking my Angler Cooperator,Fishing Diary for Seneca and the last time I fished here was 4-28-2007. I spent some time fishing in Ohio and my yearly trip to Lake George just didn't realize how much time went by,my own fault I should have fished Cayuga when the derby was going on and I didn't have a boat-mate to fish with. It was a tough two days on the water with a skunk on the 5-30-2007. I dropped in at Lodi and fished north to Sams Rock about a miles south of the Boy Scout camp. I marked a bait pod in that area and worked it hard but nothing going. So I picked up and ran across lake just north of the Showboat and fish north for the next hour with out any luck. I had a few marks here and there but could not get them to hit. Same deal for me my 50 or less program still stinks like the smell of the SKUNK in the box today. 5-31-2007 Ran about 7 miles south just below Sharkey Point and just looked for a while and found LOTS of bait from 30' to 50'. Dropped down some bait heads with herring strips for some time working these pods hard.....nothing. Kept going north and changed out program to go deep. Worked out over 300' of water and just came back in slooowwww. Found some good marks and bait from 160' to 210' I had the rigs down 120' and 47'. I dropped the 120' down to 158' and then picked up 6 lakers in the next 1.5 hours. All on the same rig , when I dropped the other rig within 10' of the deep one they would shut down. All on the small side from 14" to 19" put three in the box. Ray K what happen to all your post ????

4-28-2007 Seneca Pretty flat this morning surface temp 40.2* wind did come out of the west for a short period but not very hard. Light rain on and off over cast all the time we were out. Hoot and I set up at 9:30 am and fished till 11:30 am lost the first 4 , then I used the "burst" mode on the ThrollMaster and we hooked and boated the next three. On the next one it seem like a good bite so I gave it a go and lost it. I used the burst after that and we hooked and landed everyone except for the last one at 11:30 am. Boated nine and lost 6 all deep 120' down over 145' to 160' FOW. 39.3* at 120' two fish had small 6" lampreys on them the rest were all clean all lakers. Hoot kept two for lunch we released the rest they ran from 16" to 18" nothing big.

4-26-2007 Seneca Fished the east side today by myself wind out of the south surface temp 40.2* on top and was with in that range down to 110' never saw it lower than 39.9*. Lots of junk on this side plus weeds floating on top so I was cleaning lines ever now and then because of that crap. After I found some fish I boated 7 and lost 4 from 9:00am till 12:15 pm. 3 @ 15" 2 @ 17.5" one @ 16" and one @ 25.25" with two lamprey marks on her. All but the last fish was taken deep 145' water to 116' , 120' down on one rigger and 110' down on the other. Saw a few large marks later on in the 90' range so I brought the 110' rigger up to 84' and pick up the last fish of the day that was the biggest one. Wind stayed out of the south dropped off some for a while then picked back up. The sun came out also that was when I had my best bite but the biggest fish was caught later with no sun and a good chop.

4-24-2007 Seneca Wind out of the north surface temp just out of the launch area 42* ran across to Long Point surface temp 39.9*. Set up at 10:30 am and trolled south.We had some marks up in the 30' range set two riggs up in that area. We had one strike with no one home that knotted the hook up on the line ahead of the peanut that was on the downrigger at 85' down. Made a turn and came back thru this area with the rigger up higher so I could work in shallower. Worked the area for a while with nothing going. Pulled all lines and went into a fast 4.5mph search mode. Then we set up again working water from 115' to 145' with the downriggers at 110' and 105'. We boated 8 lakers from 16 1/2" to 20" and lost 4 more put 5 in the box. Pulled lines after SOD wanted the area we were fish so bad that they ran up our butt on the inside then tried matching our speed cutting off our zig-zag course.We were going to fish for a while longer but it was pushing 4 hours since we left Gracie so we left. The best bite was going from 115' heading for the 145' on the south troll. The wind had changed from the north to a light east wind and then the sun came out and the fish turned ON. No lamprey marks on any of the fish.

4-23-2007 - Seneca Wind was out of the south to start with a good chop. Ran across to west side and set up south of the showboat. Carol came out with me today and we started setting up at 10:35 am and fished till 12:00 noon. She hooked and boated two I hooked 3 and boated one and one tap with no one home ( and don't you know she sure told me about THAT). They were all a little over 21" with out any fin clips or lamprey marks. We had a good bite going then the wind shifted to out of the west with waves still coming from the south sliding the boat on the surface. This was causing a real bad cable angle for the down riggers so we called a day after fighting that cross wind for 20 minutes or so. 117' to 135' had a lot of fish just off the bottom. Surface temp on the west side was 39.9* you could see some pockets of warm water as I dropped the subtroll down with temps as high as 45* but the wind had them mixed up. The surface temp on the east side was 43.7* just north of Lodi creek with it dropping to 42* on the south side of it. Three more for the smoker so that should be enough to fire it up. The wind sounds like a freight train going by out side now. This will sure mix the water up good or should I say bad................will not know till I get out again.

Nice report, next out hope you get into them. How big was the LL ?

Great looking LL Ray, my smallest laker had a 6" sawbelly , the next biggest had nothing and the 24"er had a lot of sculpton (sp?) one sawbelly and a long skinny unknow...........

4/22/2007 First trip Well I started off the 2007 season on Seneca today. I sat in the middle of the lake talking to No Clue and Ray K for awhile both of them were doing well. I had my lines in the water at 10:25 am and one minor equipment problem that had me out of the game for 20 minutes or so. I landed 4 and lost one by 12:30pm not a bad start to the season. 2 at 85' down 20' off the ball , 1 at 95' down same rig just deeper, 2 at 85' down 10' off the ball . All fish were taken on a north troll with the wind out of the south. I didn't record the surface temps. but the down temp at 85' was 39.6* to 39*. Fish were 17 3/4" , 20 1/4" , 24 1/4" and 20". The first three for the smoker threw the last one back that was a double at the end. All fish were caught from 109' (FOW) to 135'. No lamprey marks on any of the fish. Ahhhhhhhhh yes it felt great to be on the water again......

Seneca , Chris

I came back up today and they were stocking 6" t0 8" laketrout and the launch was cleaned up. A BIG Tank You to the DEC or Park Rangers for a job well done............

Went up yesterday and open up camp all went well except for the hot water heater. Need to take some tools up next time and see if I can fix the weak pilot light flame. Went down to the Lodi Point park to take a look around and found the launch with about 2' hi X 5' deep of stone all the way across the ramp. I'm don't think I could launch my boat over top of all that. It will take a LOT of hand work to clean out one side. Anyone know how to contact the park to get a frontend loader in there to clean all that stone out of there??? I've cleaned a path in the past but NEVER saw this much stuff in there. Must have been some nasty winds out of the SW over the winter to pile it up like this... :?

Man that really....... anyway I'm heading up in the am to open camp up at Lodi. Looks like that's all we'll do. Leaving boat in the barn and will bring it up next week........... :shock: :?

I have my Sub-Troll set up so I can take it off. I use a Blacks release at the end with the snap to un -hook the probe then the cannon ball under the probe. When I stripped the coated wire for hook up I only stripped as little as possible. After I had every thing connected I used liquid tape on every thing except where the Blacks release comes in contact with the down rigger cable. I get a good signal from 0' to 100'+ have had it down 160' a few times and had a good signal there also. I have been running it this way for the last three years.The wire that came with the Moor was not worth much the coating came off very easy since I changed to another brad with a clear coating I've have very good luck with it. Just so much easier at the end of the day to unhook the probe and put it away.

I was hoping someone on here would have had this problem also , and gave me a easy fix. Like a shot of oil in the mantance screw hole on the side of the line counter. Oh well just have to wait till they get a hold of me.

Just my luck , when I was getting ready to put the wire on the two NEW 600LC the line counter does not work at all on one of them........... .........every time I try to up grade one of my reels I end up getting a DUD, same deal a fews years ago when I got 2 new SG47LC the clicker was bad on one. Well I contacted Shimano and we'll see what they tell me.......................

I have 6 DX30 on three of them I had to have the drags repaired. I only fish in Lake Ontario 8 to 10 days a year. The DX30 I have seem to stick every now and then...........that said I bought two new reels for wire (Tekatas 600LC)on Lake Ontario (I have used the DX30 on Seneca with out any problems BUT) I don't trust the drags enough to use them for wire dispy's. Still use them for the riggers but I alway (I hope) pull a little line out to make sure drag is fine. If it sticks I pull that one up and throw the reel of to the side to be rebuilt.

Ray turn the rubber tube 45* then lock the slide diver down and you can use smaller dia. braid if you want too.

If your doing well jigging on Keuka your do OK on Seneca. Boat control is my problem on Seneca 20.5' and no electric trolling motor to keep me in the "zone".

Great report Ray got my blood pressure up..............thanks I neede that fix............

Yankee Troller , I thought you said you may try some lighter # test on the McCoy fishing line. Just wondering if you did and how you made out.

The only time I leave the skin on is for the smoker or grill. I don't scale them for either.

I just got them in the maul today and they are as he said in GREAT shape well woth the price. Thanks [/code]

I drove my brother up to Sayre today and that place just south of Nichols ,N.Y. that has sales durning the summer months has one. Still a lot of snow on it to take a good look see but after this rain that's coming may be you could drive down to take a look. I saw one last week just south of Meshoppen on RT 6 but forgot to get a price and phone # when I came back thru. I'll be down that way again soon and will stop this time.