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Sunday, September 07, 2008 Round two for Frank and I , oh ya Pete also....................after a good meal by Frank this morning we hit the water at 8:30 am or so. Set up right out in front to work the area we stop at last night. Water down temp was very warm the north wind had brought a pile of warm water from the north part of the lake but I worked down past where we picked up some and to the next good spot in that area. We hit a good pile of bait down on the bottom in 110' of water. I dropped the center rigger right down tight to the bottom and that rod started to throb with a fish. I popped it free from the release and landed a dink laker. Frank and I both gave Pete a COLD stare.............I pulled up the rigs and ran south and across the lake hoping for a better temp on that side. We did fare over there slow but we boat and boxed 4 fish. Frank landed a laker Pete boxed a nice rainbow and I landed a laker and a small salmon. We had about 5 hits that we didn't hook up on and Frank lost one soon after hook up. We came off the water around three Pete and I took care of the boat and fish and good ole Frank went down to his camp and cooked us up a London broil ,fries and string beans Mmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!! Ole Pete was nice enough to leave ONE VERY SMALL piece for poor Gracie. Pete's rainbow if you look close you can see where he tried to RIP the lips off it THREE TIMES even after I yelled at him TWO TIMES no darn bass hook set Geshhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! The days catch............... The clown's with the days catch.........LOL The two bonus fish................ Well no nappy for Pete today so he will be tough to fish with in the am BUT we did get to the ICECREAM STORE>>>>>>>>>>

NAFC Finger Lakes Meet Saturday, September 06, 2008 Frankwood got here around 1:30 pm we BS for a few minutes then decided to go fishing. The wind had picked up now and most boat were coming off the water Not going on. We ran into the waves for about 4 miles north of Lodi Point and set up and trolled south. Frank hook up and landed a 22" laker after about 20 minutes so we were off to a good start. Thing slowed down some what and we had 4 fish in the box by the time we got back to Lodi Point. I thought we would troll a little south of the point then make a pass back up. As we were working back in a boat came out of the launch area and started setting up on a collision course with us. I said let him have the area we would turn out over deeper water work back north the slide back in WAY behind him. As we made the turn and headed north the HOT rigger fired that had boxed all 4 fish so far. Frank got on it but it was running at the boat and he thought that it got off. Long story short it jumpped one time behind the boat and then got off. It should have been a landlock salmon or a rainbow not sure. We got that rigger back down and started south again and the inside rigger fired I grabbed that one and it was a NICE one we boated and now only needed one more to get a two man limit of lakers. Before we could get that fish out of the net the outside rigger fired and Frank got the one we needed to BUST Pete's you know what. What we didn't know was that Pete was in the launch wondering if were may have been into fish. We got a little wet and beat up some from the waves but we're off to a good start and have plenty of fish for a fish fry now!!!!!! I should thank those guys for pushing us out of our trolling lane and into a nice pocket of fish........... And GOOD OLE Pete took this picture for us: Then we told him that we saw him on the shore but was NOT going in till we got OUR limit..............LOL.........

When it happen to me it was after putting "new" cable on. The fix was .................putting more "new" cable on. As with your's it was on a reg. down-rigger and just a plain ole 12# cannon ball with a fin.

We fished Seneca with a evening bite on the 6th from 3:30 pm till 6:45 pm picked up a nice batch of lakers. Best depth was 170' FOW 81' down 12' back with a red/black and glow back side BTI. We went back out late the next morning with Pete as he got there to late for the bite the day before. Worked same area with only one dink that we picked up. The temp was way deeper than the day before so I was hung up with heading north and hitting the west side or going south and hitting the west side.......................south and west we had a slow pick with many light bites on a spoon 71' down over 86' to 110' FOW back 45'.

Glen I sent him a PM on that site and told him you were asking about him on here.

Glen he's on the Sanders Board most of the time now. He's still wacking those lake trout REEL good out of Samson. I have not seen him to talk to him in person this year but from his post every thing seem to be going OK for him. If you want stop over to that board some time and just say HEY Ray. Or give him a PM..................

Nice fish , here 6 we just got today NONE were floaters in the net and in the box............. ................and in my belly soon..........

If I playing catch and release on Seneca I don't net them just unhook in the water. If ALL your fish are full of air your are getting then in too fast play them a little more but not so as to ware them out and they come up on there side. I like to "spear" them back in I saw Ray G. do this and he releases a LOT more than I do I like eating them. He will use the fish like a spear and make it dive a few feet rather than just letting it swim away. Pick your floaters up and eat them Seneca fish are super tasting not any thing like the Lake Ontario fish !!!!!!! :?

There are two creeks there one small one that jason talked about and the larger one just past the park before you get to Sunset on Seneca Campgrounds. This one is much larger and has a falls about 3/4 of a mile or so up it as Ray said. It is posted on both sides one by Sunset on Seneca and the other who ever bought the old taxidermist place. I just came across both and the larger one is bone dry from the lake up past the park. The water runs under ground this time of year till we get a GOOD rain. As I said it is posted and they SELL fishing permits by the day in the spring BUT you better get inline for one because they only let just a few people fish per day.

Nice report muskybob but it may have been just as well you didn't hook a derby fish. I think you can not buy a ticket on the same day you catch a derby fish you would have to buy the ticket the day before. But they may have changed that rule we didn't enter it this year. Good luck net time out there.

fishman08 the temp was changing from day to day up there you had to use the probe every day to find the break. We got there on the 19th and the temp break was 105' down the salmon were hitting in the warm stuff out of temp for a few days there was a 100' of 72* water all over. Then as the cold water moved into the 70' FOW the temp was at 55' down but deeper out over a 160' of water,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Just got back from Catfish ...........wire was hot for a lot of guys we only ran it hard yesterday from 11:00 am till 4 pm. 210' feet out with a sliver 10" BTI sliver meat head and two red fly's on the leader. The word was out that a pro-troll in chrome with a sliver fly was on fire most of the week on wire. We heard that news back at the dock talking to a guy the went to 7 tackle shops looking for them because he only had one left. I had one on my boat and made his day when I offer it to him..................here's my last fish of the season:

Hey Capt.Seaweed just got back from Lake Ontario out of Catfishcreek the fish are in up there now. We didn't do as well as years past but did get 15 fish in the boat the past week. We fished for SMB a few years ago on Seneca and did well trolling. Using a mini-dics with small floating rapallas (sp) in black top brown sides white belly- black top sliver side white belly and the perch pattern both straight sticks and the jointed. I can't remeber the right one for what time but one worked real well in the morning and the other one was good for the evening bite. You may get bit off some more over here with all the pike on the evening bite.

Any lines in the water before 0001hrs. that hooks a fish would NOT be a legal no matter what time the fish hit and was landed.

T.H. yep the bows seem to have the feed bag on the past few weeks..... Seneca 8-14-2008 Ran down to park after 9am and Hoot was there so he hooked up with me for some fishing. Ran across to the Serven area set up deep and trolled in and north. Picked up two 20" laker that we put back in short order. Then it was dry for awhile. Next to go was a spoon on a slider with a 19.25" small mouth. Then the wire diver out 240' with a nice laker we lost at the net. The other diver went of and we lost that fish also. Then the spoon fired again with a salmon that jumped three times and off. Then a small laker on the spoon. I was three for 4 and Hoot was 0 for 4............... ....................

Seneca 8-13-2008 Don and I went down to see if we could hook a few around 10:30 am ran south about 5 miles and set up on the west side. Trolled north picked up a small laker we put back , then one on the wire diver that we boxed. Rain came down for a while but no lighting so I dropped some glow stuff down. Popped a 24" laker on the wire diver running a sliver bullet BTI with a glow BTI fly. Then we picked up a 17" rainbow on the combo in the picture also picture of Don working one in on the diver rod. The wire fired again but we lost this one and also had a small laker on the spoon rig that we sent back. Then it got black and we could hear the thunder thought it might just miss us so we turned and headed south giving it more room. Didn't work pulled lines in a hurry and got out of dodge. Beat it back to port with 5 minute to spare.............LOL...........we boxed three fish 20" laker , 24" laker and the 17" rainbow...................

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Seneca Lodi Point 8-12-2008 I gave the east side a shot this morning over cast and little wind out of the north west surface temp. 73*. Worked just around the point area till I ran into a HUGE weed pod. Cleared lines set back up and saw the kicker was not pissing any water. Shut kicker down cleared lines and started kicker back up weeds had floated away. I wanted to run the TrollMaster now that I had it back in and the wind was picking up some from the north west so I trolled across the lake into the wind to see how the TrollMaster would do. I picked up a 23" laker over 400' of water near the west side on a dipsy wire rig out 180' with a sliver BTI and BTI fly. Worked into a 100' of water and started south. I had a rip on the wire again and lost him. Then the rigger fired and I boated a 21" 4# 7 oz. brown. Lost two more fish before calling it a day. Looks like the kinks are out of every thing and all I need to do will be change the oil in the kicker and put one more inline gas filter canister on just to be safe. I ran the other wire diver rod/reel today and the last new rigger reel. Then it will be off to L.O. Catfishcreek on the 19th..

a little late Ray...................................

3.) Check the white fly wheel which reads the speed. The wheel should be moving freely, i.e. no debris in it, it's not hanging up, etc. This is about the only thing that was ever wrong with mine when I had a good temp. reading and no speed. I'd eye-ball it and spin it by hand and drop it back down and it worked.

Wow all good news on the Food Saver , well I have the FoodSaver Vac 550. Worked fair for the first year now any small amount of moisture and the seal will leak. Got so I had to put a paper towel in to pick up the wettness before it would get to the seal line. Also used to put meat in a zip-loc bag before I used it to get a good seal. Mine must have been the dog.............. :shock:

If I'm by myself one rigger with a spoon in about 53* water (about 45' to 55' down I use my sub-troll ) and the other 15' to 20' below that one with a attactor fly. With someone else I'll add a wire diver rod been running it on a 2.5 setting back 150' to 210' with attactor fly and a inline with a 5 colors of lead core if the weeds are not too bad. Dodgers are fine , I been running John Kings BTI'S with flys and having fair luck. I had been running dodgers before and they work fine also but this color combo of the BTI been great the last few times out. Like they say run green flys the BTI color is green base with chartruse tape. Mix and match your fly's till you get bit. Above all HAVE FUN out there..............

I know you didn't want cheap but this unit works great for fish. As the air is sucked out and the water starts going out also that will mess the seal up in most uints it's no problem with this one because of the desing of the bag. Only problem I've had is loading them up to much but after a few time you get a good eye-ball for it. http://www.reynoldspkg.com/reynoldskitc ... at_id=1337

That's a good area to fish and most often a lot of bait in that area. I've been picking fish up 71' down on the riggers , 180' to 210' out on wire diver. Working from 80' to 95' if not getting any thing slide out deeper.

Seneca 7-31-2008 Went out with Don and Hoot from the park today about 9ish till 1 pm. Boxed 9 lost two and a nice rainbow. Only one fish on the diver the rest came on the riggers. The 71' down picked up two fish so I put the same on the other rigger and he had a steady bite if I could keep the speed above 1.25 at the ball. The Secret One BTI with the BTI Fly was one fire fish went from 19" to 28" on the biggest one. Best depth down was 71' we picked the rainbow up 61' back 20' on the Secret One BTI with the BTI Fly. I was in the front of the boat sipping on a coffee when it fired , yelled for them to get it but by the time they got to the rod the fish was jumping out of the water, two jumps and was gone.......LOL..........good time had by all of us today. It was the first time Don got a laker using a pole and reel he's a copper puller.........he loved it ...........who say you can't teach a Ole Dog new tricks Don's 80 years young and is looking forward to going again. Fleas were showing with the surface temp 74.6* weeds were only a issue around shoals.