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Besides hunting and fishing? Volleyball, rod building and sci-fi/fantasy. Oh, and I do a little science on the side...
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Sold / Closed Shimano tekota 700 reels old style-new price
Gator replied to Rusty's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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If the BS allele ("Big Spawner") is becoming less prevalent over time, then there must be some form of negative selection or alternatively positive selection for earlier maturation. Which equates to either spawning success, developmental advantages, or survival. I do believe that smaller fish have a better chance of running the gauntlet, but then again, those boxes of big kings on the lake can't help either. Do the Salmon River Hatchery personnel keep track of the size of the fish that they collect from? Personally, we keep smaller fish in the 10-15 lb range because they smoke better, but Facebook is rampant with coolers of big kings. However, all things being equal, I'm not sure that the lake harvest is disproportionately impacting the size distribution in a way that will skew spawning. It's complicated. And undoubtedly a combination of genetics, adaptation, and environmental factors. But it certainly seems as if the move from stocking to natural reproduction has paralleled the size shift. It's tough to propose what is certain to be an unpopular strategy without solid evidence supporting its efficacy.
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I remember the '80s too. We were chartering at that point as I was growing up down in Bath, but the size of the kings was amazing. Unfortunately, the history of nearly every fishery where a new species is established in a prime environment suggests that this type of size is unsustainable. I don't believe that there is any possibility of our returning to those glory days. However, that isn't to say that we can't balance size and numbers with a measured approach. I like Brian's idea of stocking some triploid fish - at least it would allow us to distinguish between the role of genetics versus environment on king size. The triploid population would need to be genetically distinct, optimally a throwback to the original strain, and since they're sterile, they wouldn't interfere with our naturalized strain. That having been said, there's a fair amount of data indicating that triploid fish are generally inferior to diploids, but it's worth a try. I suspect LO fishermen would gladly help to survey their catch and provide data if it meant even a remote possibility for 40 lb salmon again. At the very least, it would look like DEC was listening to the stakeholders...
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for sale : usa Parker bow
Gator replied to Silver Fox's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
When the folks at Gander Mountain broke my very first bow, a Browning Accelerator Plus, the provided me recompense in the form of a gift certificate that I used to purchase a Parker Ultralight. It was and is still to date the bow that I shot most accurately. As my buddy Paul said, I could "shoot the 'nads off a gnat" with it. Dang, I miss that bow. The Elite and Hoyt bows I've shot since then are great, but there was something about that Parker. Good luck selling this. Somebody's going to get themselves a sweet shooter. -
Heck yeah somebody will do it. I'd guess that whatever AI model DEC uses to calculate the actual harvest will incorporate that lol. But most of us will play by the rules. Too many tasty doe around anyway.
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for sale : usa 2019 ALUMACRAFT TROPHY 195 — FULLY RIGGED GREAT LAKES FISHING PACKAGE
Gator replied to fisherman21's topic in Boats for Sale
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It is known, Khaleesi. It's also known that you need to EITHER keep the head for seven days OR take a digital photo of the head to show that it was an antlerless animal and retain it for seven days. If you did neither but took the doe to a processor, you would need to provide the processor's contact information ONLY IF asked by DEC (sorry for the shouting). None of these measures requires submitting any documentation to the State, at least as of this year. There are plans to adopt a digital photo submission option into the HuntFishNY app in the future.
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Electric reel for copper and weighted steel.
Gator replied to rolmops's topic in Tackle and Techniques
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Just as an interesting aside, anyone who's fished Alaska recently appreciates that the over stocking and abundance of pinks has led to their spawning runs occurring every year rather than every two years and has negatively impacted returns on most other salmonids. Driven by money, of course. They were so prolific that it was almost impossible to drift fish without hooking them. They'd be finning in the current break caused by your legs as you were wading. What a nuisance.
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